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Re: F-15 fighters burn 25 gallons per minute?????????

Postby shortonsense » Tue 11 May 2010, 09:50:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobcousins', '
')I recall Mike Ruppert predicting collapse of the USA "within two weeks" which was greeted with wild applause, no one said it was bunk. That prediction was 6 years ago I think...


He said last night that the world is collapsing right now, and will be toast sometime this summer.

Gotta give him credit for having the cajones to pull the same stunt over and over again and not a single lapdog even called him on it last night.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobcousins', '
')What has always happened here is that the gurus develop a coterie of hysterical fans, making all sorts of wild predictions which are not countered by the gurus, then when those wild predictions come to nothing, the gurus say "yes, but I never made those predictions". The gurus like to whip up panic with dire warnings, but absolve themselves of any responsibility.


Thanks for noticing Bob. It sure looks to me like there was a good deal more speculating "back in the day" and it only went in one direction, and at one intensity.

Its nice to know that the backpedaling isn't only noticed by me.
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Re: F-15 fighters burn 25 gallons per minute?????????

Postby dorlomin » Sat 15 May 2010, 18:30:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('misterno', 'Y')ou are not gonna believe the fuel consumption of certain military aircraft and tanks.

See it yourself

http://www.envirosagainstwar.org/know/r ... itemid=593

I mean I just don't understand how Pentagon will keep up its operations when PO hits. Call me an optimist but I think the wars will end all over the world.
To bomb the ballbearing factory at Schwienfurt in Germany in 1943 the US army air corps mustered over 370 4 engined bombers and about 550 single engined fighters. During the mission they lost about 60 heavy bombers. The mission was a minor success but the damage easily repaired.

That single F15 could replicate the mission with far better results with only a couple of F16s flying top cover and a AWACS plus tanker support today. The microprocessor and satellite navagation mean that even that expenditure may be unecessary as it may be executable with a few tomahawks or new generation vehicles.

As we decline down the other side of the bell curve America may reduce the amount of energy it has available for its war machine, but so will everyone else. And 'everyone else' is not standing atop Iraq within easy graps of Saudi Arabia.

A touch of machtpolitik and the problem resolves itself.
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Re: F-15 fighters burn 25 gallons per minute?????????

Postby americandream » Sat 15 May 2010, 18:44:02

Saudi has always been an American oil protectorate with benefits. What else can possibly explain anti-Islamic paranoia vented at Saddam's secular Iraq whilst voodoo Saudi, home of the majority of the 911 terrorists, blithely continues to lop off fingers, toes and a whole array of other human appendages, continues to peddle the bed time tale of a heaven awash with virgins and eunuchs and continues to forment that paper tiger of Islamic jihadism.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('misterno', 'Y')ou are not gonna believe the fuel consumption of certain military aircraft and tanks.

See it yourself

http://www.envirosagainstwar.org/know/r ... itemid=593

I mean I just don't understand how Pentagon will keep up its operations when PO hits. Call me an optimist but I think the wars will end all over the world.
To bomb the ballbearing factory at Schwienfurt in Germany in 1943 the US army air corps mustered over 370 4 engined bombers and about 550 single engined fighters. During the mission they lost about 60 heavy bombers. The mission was a minor success but the damage easily repaired.

That single F15 could replicate the mission with far better results with only a couple of F16s flying top cover and a AWACS plus tanker support today. The microprocessor and satellite navagation mean that even that expenditure may be unecessary as it may be executable with a few tomahawks or new generation vehicles.

As we decline down the other side of the bell curve America may reduce the amount of energy it has available for its war machine, but so will everyone else. And 'everyone else' is not standing atop Iraq within easy graps of Saudi Arabia.

A touch of machtpolitik and the problem resolves itself.
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Re: F-15 fighters burn 25 gallons per minute?????????

Postby dorlomin » Sat 15 May 2010, 18:53:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'S')audi has always been an American oil protectorate with benefits. What else can possibly explain anti-Islamic paranoia vented at Saddam's secular Iraq whilst voodoo Saudi, home of the majority of the 911 terrorists, blithely continues to lop off fingers, toes and a whole array of other human appendages, continues to peddle the bed time tale of a heaven awash with virgins and eunuchs and continues to forment that paper tiger of Islamic jihadism.
Oh no doubt. But government have a habit of changing and in those cases it is always good to have a couple of legions stationed near the border should Saudi require a 're-liberation' from some or other mass movement of the people.
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Re: F-15 fighters burn 25 gallons per minute?????????

Postby americandream » Sat 15 May 2010, 18:57:44

My understanding of reading the likes of Simmons and Savinar is that social-economy is on an inevitable spiral downhill. As regards Ruppert and the general PO world view, I understand them to mean that we are on a slippery slope to the failure of capitalism with any numbers of events along the way risking being a trigger.

That's how I have read Ruppert to date and I have noted that he has been at pains to emphasis this when pressed. This is the general Marxist take on the collapse of capitalism and a fear of imminent collapse within the context of a social-economic order under increasing strain, is quite natural I venture.

If you are of the view that capitalism is not under any strain at this juncture, I can recommend a seriously good investment in a particular real estate derivatives product.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobcousins', 's')hortonsense is entirely correct, the standard PO meme was that collapse would occur within weeks of PO, as the markets realize the enormity of the situation and go into panic mode. Even as a doomer, I would point out that collapse would take years to decades not weeks, but I was a voice in the wilderness.

I recall Mike Ruppert predicting collapse of the USA "within two weeks" which was greeted with wild applause, no one said it was bunk. That prediction was 6 years ago I think...

What has always happened here is that the gurus develop a coterie of hysterical fans, making all sorts of wild predictions which are not countered by the gurus, then when those wild predictions come to nothing, the gurus say "yes, but I never made those predictions". The gurus like to whip up panic with dire warnings, but absolve themselves of any responsibility.
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Re: F-15 fighters burn 25 gallons per minute?????????

Postby Keith_McClary » Tue 18 May 2010, 23:22:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', 'O')h no doubt. But government have a habit of changing and in those cases it is always good to have a couple of legions stationed near the border should Saudi require a 're-liberation' from some or other mass movement of the people.
There's already one inside the borders:
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Formerly headquartered in Virginia near the CIA, but now it seems it is incorporated in Saudi.

Moved where the money is, like Halliburton.

Next we'll hear the Saudis have bought the US Marines.
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