[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'I') rest my case.

[sparky]

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Eastbay , the " us" are having a bit of a reproduction problem ,

it could be a malevolent conspiracy ?
a confederations of petty resentment or jealousies ?
over education as a contraceptive ?
too much food and TV ?

It's probably the triumph of selfishness as a way of life

after a thorough Darwinian filtering
I believe there will be enough of " us "left to hold our own
Against all comers

Invictus

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[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', 'I')'ll be pondering this all day. Good post.

[eastbay]

Just thinking of this again, since I enjoy pondering these historically significant topics, the Visigoths were known as almost entirely red haired. They were a branch of the Germanic family and are all gone. A few Germans have red hair, of course, but the overwhelming majority do not. I wonder if the Visigoths were more like 50% Neanderthal? Or even 75%. Wouldn't that be a hoot!! If we could analyze the DNA of a few Visigoth remains we could find out for sure.

Unrelated note: The Buddha was blue eyed (some say deep blue or even purple). Maybe that's part of the reason I'm partial to blue eyes and don't want to see that trait fall into extinction.

[sparky]

Red hairs can occur simply as a local genetic mutation ,
when early British explorers discovered the Keppel island off Australia the locals were obviously Aborigines but had red hairs , so red hairiness is no proof positive of Neanderthal descent

the candidates for the deepest link should be the Basques . they are the oldest race in the European continent . they have great physical strength and the brutish boneheadedness associated with true ancient survivors

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'J')ust thinking of this again, since I enjoy pondering these historically significant topics, the Visigoths were known as almost entirely red haired. They were a branch of the Germanic family and are all gone. A few Germans have red hair, of course, but the overwhelming majority do not. I wonder if the Visigoths were more like 50% Neanderthal? Or even 75%. Wouldn't that be a hoot!! If we could analyze the DNA of a few Visigoth remains we could find out for sure.

Unrelated note: The Buddha was blue eyed (some say deep blue or even purple). Maybe that's part of the reason I'm partial to blue eyes and don't want to see that trait fall into extinction.

[eastbay]

Yes, of course. Not anytime soon for the blue eyes and red hair. But in time. The trend is unmistakeable and should be a clear and obvious concern to all.

In Urumchi remains in mummified form are red haired indicating those with that rare genetic trait had some economic and political power during the height of the silk road trade (See the book, 'Mummies of Urumchi'). Genghis Khan was said to have red hair and yes, it was reported that some of the Mongolians threatening Europe hundreds of years ago had red hair, although one would have to search deep into Mongolia to fine one today because with a few exceptions that trait has gone extinct among Mongolians.

Just like it will go extinct everywhere else. In time. As will blue eyes. Meaning no more Buddha's.

[timmac]

The Evolution of Man?

1. Heidelberg Man - Built from a jaw bone that was conceded by many to be quite human.

2. Nebraska Man - Scientifically built up from one tooth and later found to be the tooth of an extinct pig.

3. Piltdown Man - The jawbone turned out to belong to a modern ape.

4. Peking Man - 500,000 years old. All evidence has disappeared.

5. Neanderthal Man - At the Int'l Congress of Zoology (1958) Dr. A. J. E. Cave Said his examination showed that the famous Neanderthal skeleton found in France over 50 years ago is that of an old man who suffered from arthritis.

6. Cro-Magnon Man - One of the earliest and best established fossils is at least equal in physique and brain capacity to modern man...so what's the difference?

7. Modern Man - This genius thinks we came from a monkey.

8. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools - Romans 1:22

[timmac]

Science Or Science Fiction?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')cientists generally treat the theory of evolution as an absolute fact. But critics say that some archaeologists and paleontologists are fabricating research findings and committing scientific fraud, in order to promote evolution.

Shinichi Fujimura, a leading archaeologist in Japan, recently admitted that he lied about a major find. He initially claimed that he had unearthed 600,000 year-old-stoneware, which would prove to be a unique evolutionary find. However, Fujimura actually staged the discovery and 30 0r 40 others.

What happens when a non-evolutionist with familiarity with skulls and orthodontia gets a look at the goods? Dr Jack Cuozzo, orthodontist, anthropologist, and noted researcher on Neanderthal men, questions the dating of extremely old fossils and much of the so-called scientific "evidence" that appears to support evolution.

That's because he has uncovered many distorted and fraudulent artifacts. He says he's especially leery now, because it's a time when Neanderthal images abound on the Internet, promoting evolutionary theory.

In his book Buried Alive, Cuozzo, who studied and X-rayed Neanderthal skulls in Europe, reveals some of the shocking scientific fraud he says he discovered at a Berlin museum. Recalling one skull he examined, he was horrified to find, "They had both jaws 30 millimeters out of place to produce an apelike effect."

[americandream]

Your god's not terribly bright, is it?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'S')cience Or Science Fiction?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')cientists generally treat the theory of evolution as an absolute fact. But critics say that some archaeologists and paleontologists are fabricating research findings and committing scientific fraud, in order to promote evolution.

Shinichi Fujimura, a leading archaeologist in Japan, recently admitted that he lied about a major find. He initially claimed that he had unearthed 600,000 year-old-stoneware, which would prove to be a unique evolutionary find. However, Fujimura actually staged the discovery and 30 0r 40 others.

What happens when a non-evolutionist with familiarity with skulls and orthodontia gets a look at the goods? Dr Jack Cuozzo, orthodontist, anthropologist, and noted researcher on Neanderthal men, questions the dating of extremely old fossils and much of the so-called scientific "evidence" that appears to support evolution.

That's because he has uncovered many distorted and fraudulent artifacts. He says he's especially leery now, because it's a time when Neanderthal images abound on the Internet, promoting evolutionary theory.

In his book Buried Alive, Cuozzo, who studied and X-rayed Neanderthal skulls in Europe, reveals some of the shocking scientific fraud he says he discovered at a Berlin museum. Recalling one skull he examined, he was horrified to find, "They had both jaws 30 millimeters out of place to produce an apelike effect."

[threadbear]

Louis Leakey, praised for his work on the hominid, Lucy, found her skeleton in a dry creek bed. The pelvis was in several pieces and of course, much of it was missing. In this documentary I watched about the subject, Leakey explained how he and his team, reconstructed the largely missing pelvis. This is extremely important, as the entire Lucy as upright ape-woman theory rested on how the pelvis was structured, at the time of Lucy's discovery. It's quite obvious to me that they reconstructed the pelvis in a way that supported their thesis. This isn't science, it's conjecture, and of the weakest type. Fakes and frauds don't just exist in museums, they exist in our minds, with the mass dissemination and mainstream acceptance of Leaky's audience mongering "finds". The man should be pilloried and pulverized with rotten bananas. Ape men, my a**. The ironic thing about the fake restructuring of the pelvis is apes are perfectly able to walk upright. It's an ability that isn't unique to man.

[aldente]

Our dear poster Timmac acts as if a "book" or "item" would hold all answers. If he'd search in the current electronic database (a novel version of a book including search options) then the conclusion would be that any form of "secluded" or non open form of (with)holding data is a form of forced elitism.

[americandream]

One the one hand, we have a group of persons using their faculties of observation and reasoning to make sense of human history.

And on the other we have groups of persons variously looking expectantly at the heavens or imbibing large amounts of hallucinatory bio and introduced chemicals to make sense of of the same history.

Who is one to prefer?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'L')ouis Leakey, praised for his work on the hominid, Lucy, found her skeleton in a dry creek bed. The pelvis was in several pieces and of course, much of it was missing. In this documentary I watched about the subject, Leakey explained how he and his team, reconstructed the largely missing pelvis. This is extremely important, as the entire Lucy as upright ape-woman theory rested on how the pelvis was structured, at the time of Lucy's discovery. It's quite obvious to me that they reconstructed the pelvis in a way that supported their thesis. This isn't science, it's conjecture, and of the weakest type. Fakes and frauds don't just exist in museums, they exist in our minds, with the mass dissemination and mainstream acceptance of Leaky's audience mongering "finds". The man should be pilloried and pulverized with rotten bananas. Ape men, my a**. The ironic thing about the fake restructuring of the pelvis is apes are perfectly able to walk upright. It's an ability that isn't unique to man.

[gluadys]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'T')he Evolution of Man?

1. Heidelberg Man - Built from a jaw bone that was conceded by many to be quite human.

[Pretorian]

Monkeys, apes-- what 's the difference? Timmac is clearly both an anti-monkey and an anti-ape. The guy just doesnt like monkeys, now if you throw him a tiger or an eagle to his lineage you could have sold it to him for sure.

[timmac]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'M')onkeys, apes-- what 's the difference? Timmac is clearly both an anti-monkey and an anti-ape. The guy just doesnt like monkeys, now if you throw him a tiger or an eagle to his lineage you could have sold it to him for sure.

[sparky]

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send us postcards , I always wanted to go there

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[Keith_McClary]

Genetic research confirms that non-Africans are part Neanderthal
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ome of the human X chromosome originates from Neanderthals and is found exclusively in people outside Africa, according to an international team of researchers led by Damian Labuda of the Department of Pediatrics at the University of Montreal and the CHU Sainte-Justine Research Center.
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Neanderthals, whose ancestors left Africa about 400,000 to 800,000 years ago, evolved in what is now mainly France, Spain, Germany and Russia, and are thought to have lived until about 30,000 years ago. Meanwhile, early modern humans left Africa about 80,000 to 50,000 years ago. The question on everyone's mind has always been whether the physically stronger Neanderthals, who possessed the gene for language and may have played the flute, were a separate species or could have interbred with modern humans. The answer is yes, the two lived in close association.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '
')It is said that the vast majority of the Mongol Horde that invaded eastern Europe to conquer Poland and Hungry in the 1200's were blue eyed red headed Caucasian appearing people, it was only after they conquered China and settled in the far east that their appearance became what we think of as Mongolian today.