[mcgowanjm]

^
^
l__See, Shorty, that's the problem.

Like a legal doc, and you're the judge and jury
on settlement of your bet.

Sounds just like Goldman Sachs Sh.itty deals, eh?



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ny culture that celebrates ripping off the weak and punishing the helpless ends up dead in the gutter. A healthy social sense is necessary for any society to function and topmost is to protect the weak, helpless and poor and to keep the rich from getting too rich. This is why socialist countries such as the Nordic nations are doing so well. The nations with the greatest spread between rich and poor are terrible places to live and barely governable except via military force.

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', '
')Amazing how fast gov'ts work when it's the Top
1% in a sling, eh Shorty?

[rangerone314]

Cash for clunkers didn't help me... driving old 2001 Civic...

Dumbocrats and Repugnicants can both kiss my excretory orifice... both are sides of the same tarnished coin.

On the positive side, I am investing the money the government has borrowed from my children and given to me, into things that may benefit my children (Stag Arms AR15 rifle, property infrastructure etc) in the future.

As far as peak oil goes:
Pick a year, any year, 2005, 2008, 2011, 2014... point is I don't see starships powered by dilithium crystals in our future, I don't see zero point energy or fusion coming to the rescue, and I don't see flying cars or domed cities like in Jetsons (actually the LAST one might be possible if we continue fracking up the planet the way we are, carbon or no carbon, many issues besides that)

Given how ridiculously untrustworthy and STUPID and unconcerned with the nation as a whole the politicians and the rich are, I have no faith in their ability to come up with solutions that prevent TSFHTF.

Thanks Bush II and Obama (Bush III) for increasing the debt. I use some newspaper clippings of GWB and Obama as bedding material for my 26 chickens and it is funny to see them obliterated by a hundred chicken droppings.

I only hope those incompetent morons (politicians, economists etc) can keep things running for about another 9-10 years which is about how long it will take my family to become fully self-sufficient in food, energy, water, and defense. If it lasts that long, I will survive the fall of the New Rome.

On the positive side, I am learning more than I ever thought possible: be it plumbing, woodworking, grain & vegetable farming, poultry farming... it is ironic that this is in concert with building my own computers etc which sort of represents the opposite end of the spectrum in technology.

I do find it interesting that more mainstream sources are starting to become aware of peak oil. I begin to think that the true sign that peak oil has ALREADY occurred will be at the point when a large minority or slight majority of mainstream media and authorities acknowledges it MIGHT be a problem in the near future. (Since they are already a few steps behind every crisis) (We will be standing in an asteroid crater the size of Connecticut when politicians declare that asteroid impacts MIGHT be a threat -- if it doesn't line your pockets or give you a blond trophy wife or a gf who gives good bj's, it isn't worth a politicians time)

[KevO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', ' ')or give you a blond trophy wife or a gf who gives good bj's, it isn't worth a politicians time)

[ian807]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KevO', '
')not according to Colin Campbell

http://peakoil.com/?p=53927

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ian807', 's')erious economic and social disruption.

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', '
')I only hope those incompetent morons (politicians, economists etc) can keep things running for about another 9-10 years which is about how long it will take my family to become fully self-sufficient in food, energy, water, and defense. If it lasts that long, I will survive the fall of the New Rome.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '
')What about 1-2 years of slow deterioration which may resemble BAU followed by rapidly escalating economic failure worldwide (including China etc...)?

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '
')And are you really going to be self sufficient on selfdefense?
What if your doomstead is attacked with bazookas by ex military crooks who have captured some hardware?

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '
')What about 1-2 years of slow deterioration which may resemble BAU followed by rapidly escalating economic failure worldwide (including China etc...)?

[Ludi]

Thanks for that clarification.