[rangerone314]

I like what Albert Camus and the "absurdists" have to say about human existence...

[paimei01]

mos6507, you create your own "mythology", in fact it's an ideology. For more about "myths" - see Joseph Campbell
I do not use the world "noble".

Here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heyoka
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Heyókȟa symbolize and portray many aspects of the sacred, the Wakȟáŋ. Their satire presents important questions by fooling around. They ask difficult questions, and say things others are too afraid to say. By reading between the lines, the audience is able to think about things not usually thought about, or to look at things in a different way.

Principally, the Heyókȟa functions both as a mirror and a teacher, using extreme behaviors to mirror others, thereby forcing them to examine their own doubts, fears, hatreds, and weaknesses. Heyókȟas also have the power to heal emotional pain; such power comes from the experience of shame--they sing of shameful events in their lives, beg for food, and live as clowns. They provoke laughter in distressing situations of despair and provoke fear and chaos when people feel complacent and overly secure, to keep them from taking themselves too seriously or believing they are more powerful than they are.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', '
')I do not use the world "noble".

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', '
')I do not use the world "noble".

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', '
')I do not use the world "noble".

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '
')"philosophical & practical tools to extract the most possible out of the system you're in."

[paimei01]

You don't know me mos6507. Don't tell me I don't know what "hunter gatherer" means. I had the chance - to live as a gatherer as a child. In the country - and I am sure lots pf people did, but did not understand what was going on.
This semi experience - being out all day, playing with friends - on the hill, on the river, in the forest. Eating what we could find there - just because home was too far away and we did not want to waste time going back home to eat. We went home in the evening eventually. Yes - I am patching together an image - sorry.
There is no "guilt trip" I have no reason for writing what I write - except - I write because I want to. No reason except myself. No justification, no moral, no "justice".

Form my own tribe ? Nice. I want to build a fire, right now. In the middle of the road. I want to sit near it, as long as I want to. Wonder - if civilization allows it. No need to wonder, of course not. I have to go somewhere hidden, somewhere where civilization has no interest.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', ' ')
I have to go somewhere hidden, somewhere where civilization has no interest.

[paimei01]

must not answer this to show I don't care about internet

hahahahh

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', 'm')ust not answer this to show I don't care about internet

hahahahh

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', ' ')I had the chance - to live as a gatherer as a child. In the country - and I am sure lots pf people did, but did not understand what was going on.
This semi experience - being out all day, playing with friends - on the hill, on the river, in the forest. Eating what we could find there - just because home was too far away and we did not want to waste time going back home to eat. We went home in the evening eventually.

[mike3]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', 'A')nd we don't fight ?

[mike3]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'p')aimei01 is correct. We have been domesticated into sheeple. We live within inside the Matrix content with our lives as "consumers." We have adapted well to this life because we are an intelligent resourceful species.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wiki', 'D')r. Irene Pepperberg's extensive research with captive African greys, famously with a bird named Alex, has scientifically demonstrated that they possess the ability to associate human words with meanings, and to intelligently apply the abstract concepts of shape, color, number, zero-sense, etc. According to Pepperberg and others, they perform many cognitive tasks at the level of dolphins, chimpanzees, and even a human toddler

[mos6507]

Too much doomerism is about writing out these screeds about how terrible the status quo is, and too little spent on providing an acceptable way out, something a little more attractive than waiting passively for a Gaia smackdown. I mean, there is this implied apocalyptic tone in these sorts of things. That because we hath sinned, that now Gaia shall have her vengeance and all we can be expected to do is feel guilty and make our peace before the messy end of days. Now, that may very well be the situation we're in, but I don't think it's particularly useful to waste time putting ourselves on trial like Q in Encounter at Farpoint or wallowing in guilt, wringing our hands over our collective death-sentence.



In fact it's a recipe for pushing all this out of one's consciousness as people's mental defense mechanisms kick in--the same way someone like Patrick Swayze had to just make the most of the end of his life.

[Revi]

who are these domesticated humans?

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'w')ho are these domesticated humans?

[Revi]

I don't think a lot of people are even going to want to live outside of the matrix.

I've been outside of it for a while and it's not that great.

Better to stay in la-la land, if you have a niche there.

[rangerone314]

I don't think it has to be as extreme as obliterating ALL civilization... a simple acknowledgement that things have gone to far, would go a long way.

I do as little as i can to feed the beast... watch 1 hour of TV ("Lost") instead of the 28 that the average American watches per week and I utilize my time towards ends that don't involve me getting fatter and more inert like the people in "Wall-E" (gardening, planting trees etc)

There is nothing wrong with drinking one beer, but like with drinking, commercialism can be taken to excess.