The use of the term "mainframe computer" sounds like the guys is in the 1960's or 1970's. I read once I think it was WIRE mag. that this sort of things can be done already on good laptop !!!
I conclude the story to be beer talk.
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Angry America: why an oil-man's scenario worries me
Re: Angry America: why an oil-man's scenario worries me
by Sixstrings » Wed 31 Mar 2010, 23:05:53
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shakespear1', 'T')his got me curious but after reading the above I must say it sounds like someone is trying to fool someone.
The use of the term "mainframe computer" sounds like the guys is in the 1960's or 1970's. I read once I think it was WIRE mag. that this sort of things can be done already on good laptop !!!
I conclude the story to be beer talk.
The use of the term "mainframe computer" sounds like the guys is in the 1960's or 1970's. I read once I think it was WIRE mag. that this sort of things can be done already on good laptop !!!
I conclude the story to be beer talk.
Yeah, along with the phrase "an oil man once told me.." Can you get any more general than that? I'm amazed this passes for journalism at the BBC of all places. What ever happened to getting another source before running with a story? Not to mention fact checking, as in is the "oil man" even who he says he is?
This is at best sloppy journalism, at worst the BBC has a columnist who makes stuff up (not as uncommon as you may think).
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Re: Angry America: why an oil-man's scenario worries me
by Loki » Wed 31 Mar 2010, 23:39:30
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'H')ere is a more up to date analysys...
http://petewarden.typepad.com/searchbro ... he-us.html
http://petewarden.typepad.com/searchbro ... he-us.html
That's a pretty cool geographic analysis. Suggests sectionalism is alive and well in the US, much more so than I would have thought. The hardest part of doing an analysis like that would be extracting the data from Facebook. The actual GIS work is not that super advanced.
It's not a predictive model, though. Maybe if he had used a mainframe and some punch cards
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Re: Angry America: why an oil-man's scenario worries me
by shakespear1 » Thu 01 Apr 2010, 03:29:06
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'w')orst the BBC has a columnist who makes stuff
Pre-Iraq BBC for me was a reliable news source. Now I stopped watching them. They are "customizing" News to policy of those who control their salaries.
The Web is more reliable though obviously not as straight forward. I use the strategy, read what the guys in "white hats" are saying then compare what the guys in "black hats" are saying. The truth I assume to be in the middle.
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Re: Angry America: why an oil-man's scenario worries me
by bshirt » Thu 01 Apr 2010, 06:23:21
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cabrone', 'C')ivil war sounds a bit extreme to me but a break up along the lines of the old Soviet Union doesn't seem too far fetched.
The US is a big country - you need a lot of energy to get around it. Reduce that energy source and I'd imagine that communities would become more distant and self reliant.
In an energy reduced world what would South Floridians have in common with those in Idaho for example, or Californians with Alabamans?
Some of the posts on here have already shown the different zones within the US\Canada - how much pressure would need to be applied to create those splits?
Despite all the angry screaming from minority groups I could see the majority opting to peacefully split apart and do their own thing.
The US is a big country - you need a lot of energy to get around it. Reduce that energy source and I'd imagine that communities would become more distant and self reliant.
In an energy reduced world what would South Floridians have in common with those in Idaho for example, or Californians with Alabamans?
Some of the posts on here have already shown the different zones within the US\Canada - how much pressure would need to be applied to create those splits?
Despite all the angry screaming from minority groups I could see the majority opting to peacefully split apart and do their own thing.
That gets my stamp of approval.
Actually, I think that is what is desperately needed. California can then send welfare checks to every mailbox. Ted Kennedy and the east coast can do the same.
The Midwest and South can and will do just fine without either coast.
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Midwest farmers stay in business because of federal subsidies, the South gets a lot of grants and welfare money.
