[Ludi]

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colber ... -seed-bank

I need some razor wire......

[PrestonSturges]

Beck must be hurting because his advertisers are down to web sites whose previous ad buys consisted of banners on World Net Daily.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'B')eck must be hurting because his advertisers are down to web sites whose previous ad buys consisted of banners on World Net Daily.

[Fishman]

Yep, Beck is just killing Fox News,
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/02/gl ... mber/29368
Now how is that "shameless profiteering " treating MSNBC with Madcow, Olbers numbers?
They will soon disappear.

[Fishman]

Sorry, my data was old.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/ ... ith_o.html

In the marketplace of ideas, MSNBC and your liberal viewpoint is now the penniless begger on the streetcorner. Who'd have thought Obama would have wrought such on his own party and liberals? Duhhh

[Narz]

Nice find Ludi.

[Sixstrings]

Wow, that commercial is surreal. It's like one of those fake commercials you see in a post-apocalyptic type movie.

But besides the comedy value, what we're seeing here is Doom going mainstream. A part of me thinks that the day is coming when everyone will be a doomer. But then another part of me thinks we're all overreacting -- after all, most people in Asia, Latin America, and Africa have been piss pot poor for centuries (if not millenia).

I've said it before on this site -- what Doom is really about is a simple fear of being poor. But all this "doom drama" would only last one generation. As the next generation comes up, all they will have known is poverty, and there won't be any of this "crisis garden" and "worlds made by hand" and "doomstead" romanticism. Americans may just have to start living like the vast majority of other humans on the planet -- that means a lot less material things. It also means a radically reduced diet (which ironically is much healthier than how we eat now, we eat so darn much).

Another thought that occurs to me is that third-world style poverty, the Doom which we fear so much, isn't actually all bad. Yes, I know, it is horrid on many levels.. but if you ever travel to some of these places, you'll notice that people do still laugh, they do still sing and dance and have things in their lives that they enjoy. For example Cuba, a very materially poor country, actually isn't a bed of misery and suffering. The Cubans have to grow their own food but they don't obsess over it or call them "crisis gardens" and such. They just do what has to be done and then go to a nightclub for tango or to the beach or whatnot.

So no, I wouldn't want to be third-world style poor. But I think it's worth recognizing that lack of material wealth doesn't have to mean non-stop misery and doom, Doom, DOOM! A lot of life's pleasures are free, or cost very little.

[PrestonSturges]

I was reading survivalblog.com the other day, which I appreciate because the owner keeps the white supremacist riff-raff off his site, but he was saying the other day that he gets neonazi hate mail every week.

So on the one hand, there is survivalism that avoids racism, and then there is Beck/Fox strategy that panders heavily to racists to the point of using many white spuremacist themes and codewords. Fox dabbles in the doomer mindset ("Buy gold! Bug seeds!") but their appeal is primarily racist scares about Obama the "muslim" and Obama "hates White culture."

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')the Doom which we fear so much, isn't actually all bad.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I') understand you now Mos. You are a peak denialist because you appreciate the very grave implications of peak oil (and peak phosphate, fisheries, lead, helium, soils, forests, uranium, biosphere sinks, etc.).

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'M')os, do you really believe a star trek reference wins any points?

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')
I've said it before on this site -- what Doom is really about is a simple fear of being poor. But all this "doom drama" would only last one generation. As the next generation comes up, all they will have known is poverty, and there won't be any of this "crisis garden" and "worlds made by hand" and "doomstead" romanticism. Americans may just have to start living like the vast majority of other humans on the planet -- that means a lot less material things. It also means a radically reduced diet (which ironically is much healthier than how we eat now, we eat so darn much).

Another thought that occurs to me is that third-world style poverty, the Doom which we fear so much, isn't actually all bad. Yes, I know, it is horrid on many levels.. but if you ever travel to some of these places, you'll notice that people do still laugh, they do still sing and dance and have things in their lives that they enjoy..

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
')I didn't write this stuff. You did

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I') am safe and snug beyond the Redwood Curtain

[Loki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'I')'ve said it before on this site -- what Doom is really about is a simple fear of being poor.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')the Doom which we fear so much, isn't actually all bad.

[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s for the OP, it was funny. The MSM doesn't often acknowledge the survivalist / doomer community. Probably for good reason. Speaking as a survivalist / doomer, we're definitely at the margins.