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Peak oil: Who wins, who loses?

Unread postby Graeme » Wed 17 Feb 2010, 20:41:14

Peak oil: Who wins, who loses?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')ast month, I explained in an article how and why the world is approaching a worldwide peak in oil production sometime in the next decade. Although there are large implications throughout the economy, I want to say upfront that I do not think this will bring on Armageddon. Oil prices that are significantly higher than earlier in our lifetimes will bring about great change, yet I firmly believe that our economy has the ability to successfully adapt. Despite the strong headwind oil scarcity will create, I am still an optimist.

I have structured this article by segmenting the "winners" and the "losers." These monikers may be a bit strong, and it is worth noting that even a company that might have a slower growth rate than before because of peak oil can still be a good investment. In other words, I'm not running out to buy the peak-oil benefactors, nor am I dumping the peak-oil losers. Rather, increased oil scarcity is but one of many factors Morningstar's analysts and I consider when projecting future cash flows and business positions. With that, let's jump right to it.


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Re: Peak oil: Who wins, who loses?

Unread postby rangerone314 » Thu 18 Feb 2010, 11:59:09

Toecutter and Aunty Entity will be the winners, and most everyone else will the the losers.
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Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take

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Re: Peak oil: Who wins, who loses?

Unread postby Ludi » Thu 18 Feb 2010, 14:24:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'T')oecutter and Aunty Entity will be the winners



Good to know some fictional characters will be doing ok!

My money is on Brock Samson, personally.

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Re: Peak oil: Who wins, who loses?

Unread postby GoghGoner » Thu 18 Feb 2010, 16:57:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut if transport costs rise as a result of higher energy prices, this frictional cost will reduce the opportunities for companies to take advantage of this labour arbitrage. As I mentioned in my previous article, it all boils down to high oil prices taxing transport and causing us to act more locally. This means goods being produced much closer to where they are actually consumed, which would benefit local labourers.


How high would the price of oil have to go before the transport costs are greater than the gain in labor costs? Let's wag it for now, I would say $500 a barrel. By the time oil prices go this high, nobody will be able to afford the products no matter where they are made.
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Re: Peak oil: Who wins, who loses?

Unread postby Ludi » Thu 18 Feb 2010, 17:05:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GoghGoner', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut if transport costs rise as a result of higher energy prices, this frictional cost will reduce the opportunities for companies to take advantage of this labour arbitrage. As I mentioned in my previous article, it all boils down to high oil prices taxing transport and causing us to act more locally. This means goods being produced much closer to where they are actually consumed, which would benefit local labourers.


How high would the price of oil have to go before the transport costs are greater than the gain in labor costs? Let's wag it for now, I would say $500 a barrel. By the time oil prices go this high, nobody will be able to afford the products no matter where they are made.



People ignore one of the largest reasons corps take their manufacturing overseas, it's not only labor costs, it's environmental regulations. China has virtually none, same is true for many other locations. Waste can simply be dumped anywhere at no cost to the manufacturer.

If people want these jobs back in the US, they will either have to be willing to pay much more for everything, or be fine with their polluted rivers catching on fire like in the good old days.
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