[ColossalContrarian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', 'I') think "Never Talk To The Police if you did something wrong" would be a better title.

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', 'I') finally watched the entire video and it is very compelling but I still stand by my original statement. You'll see a lot of Banksters and Wall Street Execs pull this maneuver. --snip-- I can see how LEO uses their tactics to incriminate people and sometimes they're wrong but if I were to choose an alliance of either LEO or Lawyers, I'd go with LEO.

[pablonite]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', 'A').) If you get pulled over for speeding it doesn't hurt to talk to the cop. If you're carrying, you should mention that too -don't know if you have to by law though.

[MD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', '
')
A.) If you get pulled over for speeding it doesn't hurt to talk to the cop. If you're carrying, you should mention that too -don't know if you have to by law though.

B.) If you just shot your wife, shut-up until your lawyer arrives.

C.) If you've been cooking the books at your company, shut up until your lawyer arrives.


I can see how LEO uses their tactics to incriminate people and sometimes they're wrong but if I were to choose an alliance of either LEO or Lawyers, I'd go with LEO.

[Jotapay]

I cooperate like crazy at a traffic stop, unless they want to search my car. I have a CHL and in Texas, that goes a long way. I treat them with respect and they have always treated me with respect. I answer their questions politely and cooperate unless they want to search my car. Under the fourth amendment, I have done nothing wrong to warrant a search and I tell them that I do not consent to a search. They need probable cause or a warrant for that. It's never come to that because Texas PD have always been fair in my opinion, but that is what you should do.

If I ever meet with the police outside anything other than a traffic stop, I will have counsel present. Some of you fail to understand that it is not in the police's interest to have idle chats. They don't do that. That's not their job. If they catch you making a contradictory statement, they can charge you for it, whether you intended to do so or not. The police can lie to citizens all they want, per the supreme court, but you cannot ever lie to the police or it's an offense.

I have a great relationship with Texas police, especially the state troopers. That is because they are 110% professional. They are not my enemy, they have a job to do which I repsect. And they do their job here very well. At a traffic stop, I try and help them out. I try to show them I'm not committing a crime by handing them my CHL license, telling them where I'm going, what I'm doing, if I'm carrying, and where it's at. They have a tough job so I try and make it easier. However, if they asked to search my car, I would flatly tell them, "I DO NOT CONSENT TO A SEARCH" as I'd done nothing wrong and there was no just cause under the 4th Amendment. Get a warrant.

If you ever happen to be in the presence of a police officer for any reason and he's asking you questions about someone else, don't get mouthy. Get counsel and then answer questions. Your information that you give about someone else can be used against you if the shoe fits in court.

And you should never go before the police department for an interview without counsel. Ever.

Don't be naive, FFS.

[ColossalContrarian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', 'I') finally watched the entire video and it is very compelling but I still stand by my original statement. You'll see a lot of Banksters and Wall Street Execs pull this maneuver. --snip-- I can see how LEO uses their tactics to incriminate people and sometimes they're wrong but if I were to choose an alliance of either LEO or Lawyers, I'd go with LEO.

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', 'I') finally watched the entire video and it is very compelling but I still stand by my original statement. You'll see a lot of Banksters and Wall Street Execs pull this maneuver. --snip-- I can see how LEO uses their tactics to incriminate people and sometimes they're wrong but if I were to choose an alliance of either LEO or Lawyers, I'd go with LEO.

[Blacksmith]

Interesting how it is illegal for you to lie to the police, but legal for the police to lie to you.

I am reminded that the most successful criminal organization in Europe is the Corsican Mafia, whose members will not even give the police their name.

[ColossalContrarian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pablonite', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', 'A').) If you get pulled over for speeding it doesn't hurt to talk to the cop. If you're carrying, you should mention that too -don't know if you have to by law though.

[pablonite]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'I') have to agree with you here. I do not consider getting pulled over by a cop to be an "interview" though. I have in fact talked myself out of several tickets using the blunt honesty approach. You clam up with a traffic cop or give him attitude and he is going to f-ck you sideways. But I have personally proven that the straight up honest approach will get you a pass many times.

[pablonite]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2010/01/28 ... -22000682/
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')otorist receives £50 on the spot fine.. for blowing his nose in stationary car

Jan 28 2010 By Craig McDonald

A BUSINESSMAN has been fined by cops for blowing his nose in a car.

Dad-of-two Michael Mancini pulled out a tissue while he was stuck in stationary traffic - with his handbrake on.

But he was given a £60 fixed penalty notice for "not being in control of his vehicle".

The cop who handed out the ticket was PC Stuart Gray - dubbed PC Shiny Buttons for his zealous approach to the job..


The dad has refused to pay the fine and now faces a criminal trial later in the year.

Michael, of Prestwick, Ayrshire, was driving in nearby Ayr and suffering from a runny nose when he got stuck in the traffic jam.

He said: "I needed to blow my nose so I put my handbrake on and took the car out of gear.

"I noticed four police officers standing around near the Wallace Tower but I didn't think anything of it. Then one of them waved me over.

"I still had the tissue in my hand and was totally stunned when he said I was getting a fixed penalty notice for not being in control of my car."

Michael said: "I thought it was some kind of Beadle's About moment - a wind-up. The traffic was at a complete standstill and I had my handbrake on.

"I tried to explain that to the officer but he wouldn't listen."