[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('the48thronin', '
')Any number of eventws could lead to starvation in the USA in 3 days to a week.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('the48thronin', '
')Any number of eventws could lead to starvation in the USA in 3 days to a week.

The simplest would be anything that caused the comcheck debit fuel cards to stop working.. transport would cease from just that one event.. you are then 9 meals from anarchy....

Cant happen you say.... LOL

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '
')America exports a hell of a lot of food, unless the system somehow gets fried overnight I can't see people starving in the streets anytime soon.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '
')America exports a hell of a lot of food, unless the system somehow gets fried overnight I can't see people starving in the streets anytime soon.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '
')America exports a hell of a lot of food, unless the system somehow gets fried overnight I can't see people starving in the streets anytime soon.

[Narz]

Any hungry citizen in Franklin County, Massachusetts can get a free lunch five days a week at the Amherst Survival Center, might be places like that around you too. I don't know much about 19th century Ireland but I'd imagine they weren't wasting & exporting such a colossal amount of food as we are today. I mean granted fossil fuel agriculture yadda yadda but it's not like it's all going to go belly up overnight like a Roccman wet dream.

[pablonite]

This is a great graph for this thread, trying to predict anything more precise depends on individual factors and probably some luck. Some people are going to sail down the other side, many won't. We seem to be going downhill is one thing many people will agree on. C'est la vie!

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', ' ')I mean granted fossil fuel agriculture yadda yadda but it's not like it's all going to go belly up overnight like a Roccman wet dream.

[Narz]

I think many people will be malnourished. Shoot, many people (maybe even most) in America are already malnourished.

However, I don't think we'll see people actually starving in America anytime soon (unless some nuclear doomsday scenario happens).

[mos6507]

I'd be interested in knowing how Big Ag may or may not respond to domestic food shortages. I've assumed that export land model would take effect, but doing so may require firm governmental regulation. I suspect that Monsanto, ADM, Cargill, etc... would gladly watch their fellow americans starve if they felt they could make more money selling their grain overseas. This is as much of a rationale for small-scale localized ag as any, not because doing so has any chance of competing with big ag on yields, but because we might have no other options available outside of a revolution.

If there is never a radical top-down reform in agriculture along the lines of breaking up Ma Bell, then we may very well need to permanently write-off vast swaths of land because they will be basically held hostage by the whims of big ag, whether they want to dedicate it to biofuels or export it to wealthy neighbors. And by write-off I mean not count on them when we need them the most. A lot of people are already writing them off because they are suspicious of GMOs and pesticides, but that's kind of a luxury (you know, the Whole Foods yuppie crowd). When push comes to shove, hunger will be a little higher on the pecking order than fear of low-level toxins.

[sittinguy]

Ludi, you hit the nail on the head.

Are they just going to give food away for free at some point.?
Or will the people with money hoard the food? YES

And then price controls and rationing will occur, So maybe it will be the wealthy people rioting.

Wasn't there a porno called bannana burst?

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'O')k. I guess I just wonder how hungry people have to be before the US stops exporting food and gives it away free to any hungry citizen.