[hermit]

After getting a useless university degree, I fell into computers, which has paid my bills for the last 12 years.

Now, the party's over, as I'm being outsourced.

I can't get another computer job in the area, as most other other computer work has already been outsourced overseas. I have no other useful skills, other than being a gardener and parent. I am a good learner, and start a cabinetmaking night-course in a few weeks.

I don't mind the idea of trade-work, but sitting at a desk for 12 years has weakened me and caused chronic back problems.

Nonetheless, I will need to support my family - The only thing I can hope to do is to land a couple of retail jobs, perhaps at home depot and a garden center.

Not really sure how to re-invent myself, and am seeking ideas.

You folks always have great ideas, and I'm hoping you can throw a few my way.



Would really like some ideas.

[Plantagenet]

How about one of the millions of new "green Jobs" that Obama has created with the trillion dollars of stimulus bill spending?

[Jotapay]

Where do you live? All the computer jobs are gone??

[hermit]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'W')here do you live? All the computer jobs are gone??

[lonewolf]

I hear that the compost business will be booming soon.
Field slaves and gravediggers too

[2cher]

All the computer jobs are gone for the incompetent people, the half assed programmers, the half assed designers, the half assed network admins. But those who have actual talent and actual knowledge, are not having trouble finding work.

[Jotapay]

What about coding?

[blukatzen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hermit', ' ') Nonetheless, I will need to support my family - The only thing I can hope to do is to land a couple of retail jobs, perhaps at home depot and a garden center.

[WildRose]

So, your immediate need is to find any kind of work to pay the bills. Home Depot would be a good employer, as would Costco, or your
local city (grounds keeper, or parks and recreation, maybe?)

If you are interested in the field, anything to do with physical therapy, home health care, etc. will be in big demand with an aging
population. You could probably take night or day classes at a local college or technical institute. You wouldn't have to get a degree
in the field; even the equivalent of a two-year program could land you a job as a physical therapy aide, for example.

[Ayoob]

Sell pickaxes and shovels to the New Gold Rush participants.

By that I mean, sell people what they wish to have, not what you think they should have.

You're in Montana, so I'm not sure what opportunities are available. If you want to sell something, make sure you're selling to people that have money. Selling stuff to broke people is an easy way to get nowhere fast.

I know what my plan is, but it's very different from yours.

If you think this is for real then get ready to go back to school and retool. Or, upgrade your skills in a major way and prepare to go forward again with what you already know. You might be better off cranking your skillset up to the next level and competing there rather than dropping out and competing against cabinetmakers with 12 years of experience. Cabinetmaking is a serious trade!

[dsula]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hermit', '
')I can't get another computer job in the area

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('2cher', 'A')ll the computer jobs are gone for the incompetent people, the half assed programmers, the half assed designers, the half assed network admins. But those who have actual talent and actual knowledge, are not having trouble finding work.

[Ainan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('2cher', 'A')ll the computer jobs are gone for the incompetent people, the half assed programmers, the half assed designers, the half assed network admins. But those who have actual talent and actual knowledge, are not having trouble finding work.

[Jotapay]

Doesn't Montana have ridiculously low unemployment, like 4% or so?

[hermit]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '
')Even the best can lose their jobs during mergers, outsourcing etc. Your lack of empathy is pretty shitty in the circumstances. Here's hoping it never happens to you.

[heroineworshipper]

You have to make your own work.

[efarmer]

Do ranchers and other commercial enterprises spread out over your
huge state need help on site to configure, network, and maintain
their internet connections which I imagine are often satellite rigs?
Does the satellite internet provider out there need someone?

As you probably already know, there is nothing like being there to
set up computing and networking, and especially when the end user
is all about something like managing huge acreage and workers and
not about sitting around acting like remote hands for a guy in India.

See if you can mail your shingle out to ranch or farm supply stores
in a 150 mile radius with little tear off contact info strips on there so
it is easy to tear one off and jam it into a pocket.

Many of us are getting our ass kicked due to foreign competition and
the squeeze on the American middle class from the corporate pirates
and their Coolie labor deals. Get out to where their foot can't reach your
buns as easily and don't let the ass kick become a fatal dose of
Eeyore disease.

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hermit', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'W')here do you live? All the computer jobs are gone??

[oowolf]

The unemployment rate in MT is ridiculously low because the population is ridiculously low. MT is just slightly smaller in area than CA but has a total population equal to city of San Jose.
I don't know anything about IT jobs in MT. Good luck.

oowolf in Thompson Falls.

[livinn59801]

What part of MT are you in? Here in Missoula we have lost a lot of jobs with Macy's, Brady's, and Smurfit-Stone all closing down this month.