[gollum]

Best thing we could really do is work and spend as little as possible, shun debt, and crash the system.

[TheDude]

Do you mean alternative currencies like LETS etc.? Or something more communal in nature? Like 10 mile bike commutes society at large isn't going to get on board that lifeboat until they can see the ship sinking; for the time being the average citizen with tens of thousands of their currency is going to want to park it in a traditional bank, and the minor ones have little to do with the macro scale odious shenanigans taking place in the FIRE sector.

[billg]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'D')o you mean alternative currencies like LETS etc.? Or something more communal in nature? Like 10 mile bike commutes society at large isn't going to get on board that lifeboat until they can see the ship sinking; for the time being the average citizen with tens of thousands of their currency is going to want to park it in a traditional bank, and the minor ones have little to do with the macro scale odious shenanigans taking place in the FIRE sector.

[americandream]

This is rather smart in my opinion.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'B')ut the "beast" I advocate starving is probably much larger than the one you're thinking of.

[americandream]

These monstrosities started off as dinkies.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'O')h come on, using the internet itself is environmentally destructive, where do you draw the line? Dinky regional banks are a magnitude less odious to the planet than these multi pronged international scope monstrosities, who really need to be taken down a score of notches. Alternative is to stuff mattresses and shoeboxes, is that what you're advocating?

And anyway, the $4 trillion can't be authorized unless “there is at least a 99 percent likelihood that all funds and interest will be paid back.” Pheww! See, they're looking out for us.