Donate Bitcoin

Donate Paypal


PeakOil is You

PeakOil is You

THE Homeless Hooverville Tent City Thread (merged)

What's on your mind?
General interest discussions, not necessarily related to depletion.

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby rangerone314 » Mon 14 Dec 2009, 10:53:23

Whatever happened to using Bush the 3rd?
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right

Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take

You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown

Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
User avatar
rangerone314
Light Sweet Crude
Light Sweet Crude
 
Posts: 4105
Joined: Wed 03 Dec 2008, 04:00:00
Location: Maryland

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby ian807 » Mon 14 Dec 2009, 11:53:47

Obama won't upset the applecart or do anything different from the Bush administration.

He doesn't dare.

Remember that scene in "Fight Club" where Tyler Durden duct tapes a politician's mouth and says to him, "We are the people who take out your garbage...we watch over you while you sleep...DO NOT F*** WITH US!"

Obama is the guy with the duct taped mouth. He has guards. He has servants. And those servants and guards have masters, who are not necessarily Mr. Barack Obama.

All it would take is a phone call from some gentlemen at Goldman Sachs to another on K-Street who calls a friend at the Secret Service to let in two unwanted guests to a party to "remind" Mr. Obama of just how vulnerable both he and his family are.

Think that sort of thing doesn't happen? Think it isn't happening right now?

If Mr. Obama dances the same dance and sings the same songs that Bush was ordered to sing, he'll be rewarded nicely at the end. If not, well, all it takes is a little carelessness for a change of administration.

Obama is in the big leagues now, and they don't play fair, or nice, and they don't leave tracks.

So nothing is going to be different, no matter who is in office, because the moment somebody refuses to play ball, that person will soon not *be* in office anymore.

Or anywhere else.
User avatar
ian807
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 899
Joined: Mon 03 Nov 2008, 04:00:00

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby rangerone314 » Mon 14 Dec 2009, 11:56:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ian807', 'O')bama won't upset the applecart or do anything different from the Bush administration.

He doesn't dare.

Remember that scene in "Fight Club" where Tyler Durden duct tapes a politician's mouth and says to him, "We are the people who take out your garbage...we watch over you while you sleep...DO NOT F*** WITH US!"

Obama is the guy with the duct taped mouth. He has guards. He has servants. And those servants and guards have masters, who are not necessarily Mr. Barack Obama.

All it would take is a phone call from some gentlemen at Goldman Sachs to another on K-Street who calls a friend at the Secret Service to let in two unwanted guests to a party to "remind" Mr. Obama of just how vulnerable both he and his family are.

Think that sort of thing doesn't happen? Think it isn't happening right now?

If Mr. Obama dances the same dance and sings the same songs that Bush was ordered to sing, he'll be rewarded nicely at the end. If not, well, all it takes is a little carelessness for a change of administration.

Obama is in the big leagues now, and they don't play fair, or nice, and they don't leave tracks.

So nothing is going to be different, no matter who is in office, because the moment somebody refuses to play ball, that person will soon not *be* in office anymore.

Or anywhere else.

One wonders about JFK and such... consider Nixon and gold...
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right

Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take

You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown

Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
User avatar
rangerone314
Light Sweet Crude
Light Sweet Crude
 
Posts: 4105
Joined: Wed 03 Dec 2008, 04:00:00
Location: Maryland

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 14 Dec 2009, 12:26:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ian807', '
')Obama is the guy with the duct taped mouth.....


Are you kidding?

Obama is CONSTANTLY talking, CONSTANTLY giving speeches, CONSTANTLY appearing in ads and CONSTANTLY on the news.

Obama's problem isn't that he can't speak freely or say what he really thinkis. Obama's problem is that he is a screw-up. Obama is a classic example of the personality type known as the "articulate incompetent." Obama can articulately and charmingly discuss almost any issue.....for months at a time. He'll talk and dither and delay and change his mind until he finally makes a decision, and then at the last moment he'll change the group decision in a way that subverts the months of planning and leads to failure.

Healthcare reform anyone? How about 4 million jobs disappearing on his watch even as he spends 800 billion in PORKULUS funds to create jobs? How are those negotiations with Iran coming along? Surge into Afghanistan....with a deadline to pull troops out 18 months away? Cap and tax enough for you?

And how about Obama's campaign promise to make the US energy independent in 8 years??

Image
User avatar
Plantagenet
Expert
Expert
 
Posts: 26765
Joined: Mon 09 Apr 2007, 03:00:00
Location: Alaska (its much bigger than Texas).

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby Sixstrings » Tue 15 Dec 2009, 02:58:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '[')b]And how about Obama's campaign promise to make the US energy independent in 8 years??


Nonsense Plant, we're going to achieve energy independence by plunging into the Greatest Depression. Then, the government will create another Tennessee Valley Authority so we can plant Chinese-made windmills all over the place.
User avatar
Sixstrings
Fusion
Fusion
 
Posts: 15160
Joined: Tue 08 Jul 2008, 03:00:00

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby VZR1800 » Fri 25 Dec 2009, 23:21:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '[')b]And how about Obama's campaign promise to make the US energy independent in 8 years??


Nonsense Plant, we're going to achieve energy independence by plunging into the Greatest Depression. Then, the government will create another Tennessee Valley Authority so we can plant Chinese-made windmills all over the place.


It already started. The Trinity plant I worked at was supposed to switch to wind turbines in Jan 2009. Insteas the plant clsed and everyone got the axe, along with those at another 13 plants in Ok, Tx and Mo.

Not long after I came upon an article about turbines being manufactured in China. For the same project we were supposed to be working!

Welcome to HOPE AND CHANGE!
User avatar
VZR1800
Peat
Peat
 
Posts: 104
Joined: Mon 29 Jun 2009, 20:15:06
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
Top

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby jdmartin » Sat 26 Dec 2009, 10:33:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ian807', '
')Obama is the guy with the duct taped mouth.....


Are you kidding?

Obama is CONSTANTLY talking, CONSTANTLY giving speeches, CONSTANTLY appearing in ads and CONSTANTLY on the news.

Obama's problem isn't that he can't speak freely or say what he really thinkis. Obama's problem is that he is a screw-up. Obama is a classic example of the personality type known as the "articulate incompetent." Obama can articulately and charmingly discuss almost any issue.....for months at a time. He'll talk and dither and delay and change his mind until he finally makes a decision, and then at the last moment he'll change the group decision in a way that subverts the months of planning and leads to failure.

Healthcare reform anyone? How about 4 million jobs disappearing on his watch even as he spends 800 billion in PORKULUS funds to create jobs? How are those negotiations with Iran coming along? Surge into Afghanistan....with a deadline to pull troops out 18 months away? Cap and tax enough for you?

And how about Obama's campaign promise to make the US energy independent in 8 years??



I don't understand the point of your posts. Yes, Obama is a major disappointment. He's more of the same old. So what? First off, I don't believe you're surprised. No, what it sounds like is that you're a faithful right-wing neocon screaming in a shrill voice at how Obama is wrecking the nation ala Glenn Beck. Your comments sound trite and meaningless because there's no objectivity behind them. For all your screaming about how bad Obama is, it seems to me that you conveniently forget how bad Bush, Clinton, Bush I, Reagan, et al were. They were all just as bad, some worse, some better, but they've all been contributing to the same trajectory we're on right now. It's hard to take your comments and posts as anything more than the Glenn Beck crybaby wah-wah section. Why does Obama bad = Bush (or Palin, or any other right-wing asshole) good? Or do you subscribe to the "Well, at least our guy isn't as bad as the last guy" school of thought?

All of these politicians are cut from the same damn cloth. They're ALL for the Corpocracy.
After fueling up their cars, Twyman says they bowed their heads and asked God for cheaper gas.There was no immediate answer, but he says other motorists joined in and the service station owner didn't run them off.
User avatar
jdmartin
Heavy Crude
Heavy Crude
 
Posts: 1272
Joined: Thu 19 May 2005, 03:00:00
Location: Merry Ol' USA
Top

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby Hawkcreek » Sat 26 Dec 2009, 11:01:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ll of these politicians are cut from the same damn cloth. They're ALL for the Corpocracy.


Amen. It is tempting sometimes to believe that "our" guy is better than their guy, but the facts speak otherwise. They are all for making corporations richer, at the expense of the citizens.
Every day the Glenn Becks of the world have a few more idiots believing that it is the fault of the "other guys".
And it won't change unless an armed revolution begins- and by then it will be our guys fighting their guys, instead of everyone fighting their corporate masters.
"It don't make no sense that common sense don't make no sense no more"
John Prine
Hawkcreek
Expert
Expert
 
Posts: 1468
Joined: Sun 15 Aug 2004, 03:00:00
Location: Washington State
Top

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby VMarcHart » Sun 27 Dec 2009, 11:53:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'O')bama declaring the recession over is akin to Bush landing on the carrier in May 2003 declaring mission accomplished in Iraq. I wonder if we still be in recession 6 years later.
That would be a good idea for Keith Olberman's closing line.
On 9/29/08, cube wrote: "The Dow will drop to 4,000 within 2 years". The current tally is 239 bold predictions, 9 right, 96 wrong, 134 open. If you've heard here, it's probably wrong.
User avatar
VMarcHart
Heavy Crude
Heavy Crude
 
Posts: 1644
Joined: Mon 26 May 2008, 03:00:00
Location: Now overpopulating California
Top

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby rangerone314 » Mon 28 Dec 2009, 10:15:20

Anyone care to make any predictions as to whether Obama will get re-elected in 2012...?
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right

Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take

You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown

Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
User avatar
rangerone314
Light Sweet Crude
Light Sweet Crude
 
Posts: 4105
Joined: Wed 03 Dec 2008, 04:00:00
Location: Maryland

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby Ludi » Mon 28 Dec 2009, 10:27:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'A')nyone care to make any predictions as to whether Obama will get re-elected in 2012...?


Sure! "I predict Obama will be re-elected in 2012."

There. A Bold Prediction. :)

Reasoning:

1. Republicans split into three camps - Teabaggers, Corporate Whores, Actual Conservative Republicans - and unable to present a decent candidate.

2. No viable third party.
Ludi
 
Top

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby rangerone314 » Mon 28 Dec 2009, 10:34:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'A')nyone care to make any predictions as to whether Obama will get re-elected in 2012...?


Sure! "I predict Obama will be re-elected in 2012."

There. A Bold Prediction. :)

Reasoning:

1. Republicans split into three camps - Teabaggers, Corporate Whores, Actual Conservative Republicans - and unable to present a decent candidate.

2. No viable third party.

Good post, though you missed something that I didn't mention... odds of a challenge from within the Democratic party. (possible if the economy stays ragged by 2012)
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right

Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take

You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown

Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
User avatar
rangerone314
Light Sweet Crude
Light Sweet Crude
 
Posts: 4105
Joined: Wed 03 Dec 2008, 04:00:00
Location: Maryland
Top

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby VMarcHart » Mon 28 Dec 2009, 10:46:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'R')epublicans [are] ... unable to present a decent candidate.
Oh, gee, Ludi, you don't think Palin is a decent candidate? She even has a book! :)
On 9/29/08, cube wrote: "The Dow will drop to 4,000 within 2 years". The current tally is 239 bold predictions, 9 right, 96 wrong, 134 open. If you've heard here, it's probably wrong.
User avatar
VMarcHart
Heavy Crude
Heavy Crude
 
Posts: 1644
Joined: Mon 26 May 2008, 03:00:00
Location: Now overpopulating California
Top

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby Hawkcreek » Mon 28 Dec 2009, 11:37:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')h, gee, Ludi, you don't think Palin is a decent candidate? She even has a book!


Two books - that makes her three times as good. :-D
"It don't make no sense that common sense don't make no sense no more"
John Prine
Hawkcreek
Expert
Expert
 
Posts: 1468
Joined: Sun 15 Aug 2004, 03:00:00
Location: Washington State
Top

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby rangerone314 » Mon 28 Dec 2009, 11:45:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hawkcreek', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')h, gee, Ludi, you don't think Palin is a decent candidate? She even has a book!


Two books - that makes her three times as good. :-D

I wonder if that makes her more or less likely to lead a book burning?
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right

Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take

You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown

Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
User avatar
rangerone314
Light Sweet Crude
Light Sweet Crude
 
Posts: 4105
Joined: Wed 03 Dec 2008, 04:00:00
Location: Maryland
Top

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby Ludi » Mon 28 Dec 2009, 17:07:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', '
')Good post, though you missed something that I didn't mention... odds of a challenge from within the Democratic party. (possible if the economy stays ragged by 2012)



No, I didn't miss it, I didn't mention it because it is so unlikely as to be implausible. The Democrats would never have the 'nads to run against their own man.
Ludi
 
Top

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby rangerone314 » Mon 28 Dec 2009, 17:53:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', '
')Good post, though you missed something that I didn't mention... odds of a challenge from within the Democratic party. (possible if the economy stays ragged by 2012)



No, I didn't miss it, I didn't mention it because it is so unlikely as to be implausible. The Democrats would never have the 'nads to run against their own man.

Good point.

That last Democrats who had any 'nads were John and Robert Kennedy. And look what happened to them.
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right

Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take

You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown

Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
User avatar
rangerone314
Light Sweet Crude
Light Sweet Crude
 
Posts: 4105
Joined: Wed 03 Dec 2008, 04:00:00
Location: Maryland
Top

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby jdmartin » Mon 28 Dec 2009, 19:37:13

Not to mention that no sitting president has had a real primary challenger since 1992.
After fueling up their cars, Twyman says they bowed their heads and asked God for cheaper gas.There was no immediate answer, but he says other motorists joined in and the service station owner didn't run them off.
User avatar
jdmartin
Heavy Crude
Heavy Crude
 
Posts: 1272
Joined: Thu 19 May 2005, 03:00:00
Location: Merry Ol' USA

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby RedStateGreen » Tue 29 Dec 2009, 15:22:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'A')nyone care to make any predictions as to whether Obama will get re-elected in 2012...?


Sure! "I predict Obama will be re-elected in 2012."

There. A Bold Prediction. :)

Reasoning:

1. Republicans split into three camps - Teabaggers, Corporate Whores, Actual Conservative Republicans - and unable to present a decent candidate.

2. No viable third party.


Only three? You forget the Anti-Abortionists and the Fundies. Those two groups alone cause most of the divisiveness, as each potential candidate has to be against abortion enough or "Christian" enough (aka say enough of the right words and have an 18/00 charisma to Fundies) to pass muster.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('efarmer', '&')quot;Taste the sizzling fury of fajita skillet death you marauding zombie goon!"

First thing to ask: Cui bono?
User avatar
RedStateGreen
Heavy Crude
Heavy Crude
 
Posts: 1859
Joined: Sun 16 Sep 2007, 03:00:00
Location: Oklahoma, USA
Top

Re: "Obamaville" -- hopeless homeless huddle in despair

Unread postby Ludi » Tue 29 Dec 2009, 15:27:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedStateGreen', '
')Only three? You forget the Anti-Abortionists and the Fundies. Those two groups alone cause most of the divisiveness, as each potential candidate has to be against abortion enough or "Christian" enough (aka say enough of the right words and have an 18/00 charisma to Fundies) to pass muster.


I'm afraid I tend to lump those in with the Teabaggers. :oops: But you're right, they maybe should have their own categories.
Ludi
 
Top

PreviousNext

Return to Open Topic Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests

cron