[Aaron]

On peakoil.com

http://www.peakoil.com/gate.html?name=zina

[Overlyhonest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'n')teresting that Carter was making the same predictions the PO crowd is today, and that basically none of them came true in the time frame he indicated. Why not? How can we be sure the new batch of predictions is more accurate?

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grimnir', 'I')nteresting that Carter was making the same predictions the PO crowd is today, and that basically none of them came true in the time frame he indicated. Why not? How can we be sure the new batch of predictions is more accurate?

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grimnir', 'I')nteresting that Carter was making the same predictions the PO crowd is today, and that basically none of them came true in the time frame he indicated. Why not? How can we be sure the new batch of predictions is more accurate?

[EnemyCombatant]

Al Gore, a personal friend of Jimmy Carter, outlined in his book Earth In The Balance 1992 a Global Marshall Plan for saving the planet and creating a better life for everyone.
He is still going around the country doing speeches, mostly at universities, regarding the environment.

http://www.algoresupportcenter.com/eitb3.html
http://www.algoresupportcenter.com/eitb1.html
http://www.algoresupportcenter.com/eitb2.html

[holmes]

Although I dont agree with some of J. Carters more "liberal" stances he is a good man and had the vision that might have saved this nation form crumbling. I would have voted for him and would now. But the greed and filth took the wheel. But lets hear it for Jimmy. His words are prophetic. And still idiots in this country are fighting gas taxes that could help lead to a softer landing and conservation. pretty damn sad state this country is in. The coffers are getting bare. america is NOT the land of infinite resources anymore.

[Grimnir]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grimnir', 'I')nteresting that Carter was making the same predictions the PO crowd is today, and that basically none of them came true in the time frame he indicated. Why not? How can we be sure the new batch of predictions is more accurate?

[BiGG]

Jimmy Carters speech is 25 years old and coming from one who doesn’t have the slightest clue regarding the present world. His speech tells US all about how “God” loves US! He doesn’t have anymore of an idea of whether some alleged god loves US anymore than he has a clue regarding how modern science eliminates his fear-mongering regarding energy.

[aldente]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BiGG', ' ')He doesn’t have anymore of an idea of whether some alleged god loves US anymore than he has a clue regarding how modern science eliminates his fear-mongering regarding energy.

[FoxV]

just listend to the MP3 of the speech.
its amazing how the issues and arguments are pretty much exactly the same then as they are now. Clearly all of this is nothing new and our problems are simply because the powers that be choose to ignore the signs.
I wonder if you play Bush's energy speeches backwards this is what you'll hear

[BiGG]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', '
')What exactlely do you state here? That technology takes care of it all? You seem the one who has no clue!
This speech gives good insight about the current political situation. Here is a figure that speaks out, as a result has been voted out with the opposition aware that it is better say what people want to hear, rather than what is the case.

[holmes]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BiGG', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', '
')What exactlely do you state here? That technology takes care of it all? You seem the one who has no clue!
This speech gives good insight about the current political situation. Here is a figure that speaks out, as a result has been voted out with the opposition aware that it is better say what people want to hear, rather than what is the case.

[Leanan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')es this is the stock answer; but demand in the 70's was much lower than it is today. It doesn't add up; the amount that was "conserved" due to the OPEC embargos wouldn't last long in a world with 90's demand levels, but we got all the way through the 90's and at least halfway through the 00's with barely a hitch.

[aldente]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BiGG', 'J')immy Carters speech is 25 years old

[bruin]

Let's keep things straight here. You might hate Reagan/Bush I/Bush II, but Carter was the first to spell out an American policy of war for oil.

ON 23 January 1980, in his State of the Union Address, President Jimmy Carter announced a new American policy that came to be called the Carter Doctrine. Referring to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Mr. Carter warned that:

An attempt by an outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force.1

[DomusAlbion]

The Carter Doctrine is an extention of the policies set forth by Roosevelt near the end of WW II. But you're correct in that Carter clearly stated publicly what has been US policy since 1944.

[Pops]

I know everyone likes to point the finger across “the aisle”, red / blue and all that BS, but you are right, the energy wars are nothing new.

IIRC the Pentagon had the plans drawn up…

[Geology_Guy]

The Iranians have no use for Carter. They regard him as the enemy who invaded their land (the failed hostage rescue in the desert).

[tb]

[An attempt by an outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force.1[/quote]

That included the use of nuclear weapons. Read his memoirs "Keeping Faith." The part on energy will make your blood run cold.

[bruin]

It goes to show that neither political party would avoid conflict in the Persian Gulf to protect it's vital interests.

There's no way to excercise your right to vote to avoid a PO meltdown.

Good luck getting a 3rd party canidate in office.