[mcgowanjm]

So get on top of it. The Last Depression is here and getting
worse. PO, PeakGrain, human pop overshoot, CC,
all of it's been forecast. Right on schedule. Obama was dismissed
by us in Dec 08. Expect a dragon king.

Per Leanan:$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')
Authorities said they have traced much of the oil rustling to the Zetas, a criminal organization founded by former military commandos. Although the Zetas initially served as a protection arm of the powerful Gulf cartel, they now call their own shots and dominate criminal enterprise in the oil-rich states of Veracruz and Tamaulipas.

"The Zetas are a parallel government," said Eduardo Mendoza Arellano, a federal lawmaker who heads a national committee on energy. "They practically own vast stretches of the pipelines, from the highway to the very door of the oil companies."

Washington Post

[pablonite]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'T')his same crap is played out over and over again in every democracy that doesn't have strong socialist / populist activism (I'm thinking of France). I was watching a documentary about the Argentine financial crisis the other day, my God it was the same exact stuff. Even some of the same companies behind all the corruption -- Citi, Bank of America, etc. The private corporate debts being passed off to the public debt, all what we're seeing here now in America.

[Ayoob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'W')e need an Andy Jackson to go after banks.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'T')here is no question that Mr. Obama has done everything he can do to maintain the status quo by propping up big business and the financial sector. This is pretty much the path taken by President Hoover in the first stages of the great depression. Both men are nice guys and neither of them will be well remembered by history.

[Cloud9]

Preston where did the lion's share of the money go, main street or wall street? Hoover had relief programs as well, remember the dam?

[jbrovont]

The conditions leading up to what we have today have been chugging along, unopposed for almost 30 years. If you want to get to the root of where we went wrong, you have to look back to Reaganomics aka "trickledown" and how that was combined with complicity toward the greed of the banks and international corporations that chose to export labor and increase prices.

Again, not pinning this on any one person. I'm saying we've had about 30 years of epically failed econmic policy.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'A') large "Obamaville" tent city filled with homeless folks is getting media attention in Colorado.

Obamaville--homeless folks in Colorado

The human tragedy of homelessness is only going to get worse as Obama's "jobless recovery" sputters along.....and if by some miracle job creation picks up, it will inevitably trigger more oil demand, thereby creating higher oil prices that will trigger another recession.

[lonewolf]

fixed that for you

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lonewolf', 'f')ixed that for you

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'P')reston where did the lion's share of the money go, main street or wall street? Hoover had relief programs as well, remember the dam?

[AlexdeLarge]

FDR and Workers' Capitalism
'Trickle Down Economics' vs. the 'Forgotten Man'
http://www.capital-flow-analysis.com/investment-essays/fdr2.html

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he primary difference between Hoover's and Roosevelt's economic policies was that Hoover believed in providing incentives to business to restart the economy from the top, while Roosevelt wanted to give direct, immediate assistance to the workers at the bottom.

This clash of views dominated American politics for the rest of the century, the Republican position being derided as 'trickle down economics', while the Democratic perspective was condemned as 'welfare-state socialism'.

[Plantagenet]

Obama knows NOTHING about the private sector. He has never held a responsible job in the private sector for any length of time and he doesn't have a clue how businesses operate or what is involved in a company making a profit or how wealth is created by individuals and groups with new inventions, ideas and new concepts that are marketable.

Instead, Obama, like many folks with an unsophisticated, childlike view of the world, thinks there is a static amount of "wealth" and some people have more than their share----and Obama sees the role of government to be the redistribution of the little pile of wealth in order to make things "fair."

The economic policies of this administration are like having the economy under the control of a naive and slightly simple-minded "do-gooder" church lady.

[PrestonSturges]

Well Bush was "The MBA President," and how did that work out?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'O')bama knows NOTHING about the private sector. He has never held a responsible job in the private sector for any length of time and he doesn't have a clue how businesses operate or what is involved in a company making a profit or how wealth is created by individuals and groups with new inventions, ideas and new concepts that are marketable.

Instead, Obama, like many folks with an unsophisticated, childlike view of the world, thinks there is a static amount of "wealth" and some people have more than their share----and Obama sees the role of government to be the redistribution of the little pile of wealth in order to make things "fair."

The economic policies of this administration are like having the economy under the control of a naive and slightly simple-minded "do-gooder" church lady.

[Novus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', '
')Funny thing is no restaurant would ever be able to give away free coffee and soup in this day because there would be a riot and they would trash the place and break the windows.

[AlexdeLarge]

Obama Hypocrisy Meter Off The Charts:
"I Did Not Run For Office To Be Helping Out A Bunch Of Fat Cat Bankers On Wall Street"
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/obama-hypocrisy-meter-charts-i-did-not-run-office-be-helping-out-bunch-fat-cat-bankers-wall-

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')bama goes back to his Wall Street-bashing rhetoric in today's 60 Minutes on CBS, after he has already doomed this country to tens of trillions in excess debt to make sure that Wall Street not only thrives, but prospers, courtesy of Bernanke's vertical bond curve and the daily destruction of the dollar. With statements such as "I did not run for office to be helping out a bunch of fat cat bankers on Wall Street" which the WSJ disclosed will be uttered by Obama shortly, only the most clueless viewers will find empathy with Obama's latest message of banker "anti-hope."

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlexdeLarge', '[')b]Obama Hypocrisy Meter Off The Charts:
"I Did Not Run For Office To Be Helping Out A Bunch Of Fat Cat Bankers On Wall Street"
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/obama-hypocrisy-meter-charts-i-did-not-run-office-be-helping-out-bunch-fat-cat-bankers-wall-

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')bama goes back to his Wall Street-bashing rhetoric in today's 60 Minutes on CBS, after he has already doomed this country to tens of trillions in excess debt to make sure that Wall Street not only thrives, but prospers, courtesy of Bernanke's vertical bond curve and the daily destruction of the dollar. With statements such as "I did not run for office to be helping out a bunch of fat cat bankers on Wall Street" which the WSJ disclosed will be uttered by Obama shortly, only the most clueless viewers will find empathy with Obama's latest message of banker "anti-hope."

[Plantagenet]

Dr. Evil-----did you see the news story where Geithner's phone records were made public. It turns out our Treasury Secretary is CONSTANTLY on the phone with Goldman Sachs and the other big banksters to tell them what the Treasury Department and the Fed will be doing next.

No wonder Goldman Sachs is making record profits-----they not only have a mole in the Obama administation....they ARE the Obama administration.

[Novus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', '
')Funny thing is no restaurant would ever be able to give away free coffee and soup in this day because there would be a riot and they would trash the place and break the windows.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'D')r. Evil-----did you see the news story where Geithner's phone records were made public. It turns out our Treasury Secretary is CONSTANTLY on the phone with Goldman Sachs and the other big banksters to tell them what the Treasury Department and the Fed will be doing next.

No wonder Goldman Sachs is making record profits-----they not only have a mole in the Obama administation....they ARE the Obama administration.

[rangerone314]

Democracy, socialism, capitalism... the problem is "Big-ism".

Big-ism is the ability of a Big power, whether it is Big Business or Big Government to squash the ability of the little man to live out his life as he sees fit and keep a decent share of the weath that he generates.