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Re: An implosion of the banking system is coming

Unread postby some_math_guy » Tue 06 Oct 2009, 13:34:43

Would it not be better to keep PM (precious metals) on hand instead of cash? You can always barter for the things you need will a silver bullion coin, or at worst trade them for cash to buy the things you need.

I wonder if, in the case of a true banking failure, retail outlets would be willing to take PM in exchange for goods. Buying groceries and clothes with .999 silver rounds?
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Re: An implosion of the banking system is coming

Unread postby mos6507 » Tue 06 Oct 2009, 13:58:04

I finally broke down and ordered my first batch of silver coins. I don't really care if there is a pullback. Short-term gains and losses are not what doomers should be obsessed with. We're talking about mega-doom insurance policies here. But I'm not converting my entire net work over to PM. At first I'm just moving over what I consider to be discretionary funds above and beyond my doomstead nest egg.

The way gold is now I would not get into it. It seems overvalued vs. silver, and silver will be easier to use to buy everyday necessities if we go the way of Argentina. If you want to use gold as a currency to buy everyday items you have to do stuff like have it in chains and cut off little tiny pieces.
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Re: An implosion of the banking system is coming

Unread postby Pops » Tue 06 Oct 2009, 14:01:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('some_math_guy', 'I') wonder if, in the case of a true banking failure, retail outlets would be willing to take PM in exchange for goods. Buying groceries and clothes with .999 silver rounds?

I've wondered the same -

Short term I doubt it - certainly a chain would not, perhaps an independent. Are there any independent retailers? How would they determine the value of your metal? What would they do with it if they did accept it?

Longer term maybe - but in a true failure how are they themselves paying for sock? Is there enough metal to run an entire black market?

The thing I also wonder about is going to the corner market with a pocket full of gold in such a situation. Probably not a smart thing.

Why not simply have a pantry full of the things you might need for some period? The only difference in how you live your life is to put the items from your shopping trip at the back of the shelf instead of the front.
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Re: An implosion of the banking system is coming

Unread postby Thralen » Tue 06 Oct 2009, 15:20:47

Hey, some places take silver already if you believe this youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xnIFzP2bTY

I see no reason not to believe it, pain in the butt to hoax soemthing like that, so...

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Re: An implosion of the banking system is coming

Unread postby rangerone314 » Tue 06 Oct 2009, 16:19:53

I've always liked silver.

Also it is supposed to be good against vampires and werewolves.

I suppose silver bullets would kill "zombies", too! :mrgreen:
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Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take

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Re: An implosion of the banking system is coming

Unread postby hironegro » Tue 06 Oct 2009, 16:38:02

Nothing is going to happen. People like OF2 will keep running this planet.
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Re: An implosion of the banking system is coming

Unread postby oswald622 » Tue 06 Oct 2009, 16:48:22

rocc, when did you come back? i thought you bugged out about a year ago?
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Re: An implosion of the banking system is coming

Unread postby Prince » Tue 06 Oct 2009, 17:01:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oswald622', 'r')occ, when did you come back? i thought you bugged out about a year ago?


This thread was started October of last year. It was brought back from the dead a few days ago, and much has changed since then. For the life me, I never understand why people resurrect threads that haven't had activity in over a month.
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Re: An implosion of the banking system is coming

Unread postby davep » Tue 06 Oct 2009, 17:25:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Prince', ' ')For the life me, I never understand why people resurrect threads that haven't had activity in over a month.


What a daft comment. This isn't a vacuous chat site. If there's something useful that's worth bumping, then it should be bumped. There's a wealth of information in here.
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Re: An implosion of the banking system is coming

Unread postby Novus » Tue 06 Oct 2009, 20:17:31

I think this thread proves not over react. Watch and be vigilant because what was predicted here could happen but don't go crazy that the sky is falling. The ones with the cool heads will be the ones who survive whatever crisis are coming.
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Re: An implosion of the banking system is coming

Unread postby timmac » Tue 06 Oct 2009, 22:49:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'I') think this thread proves not over react. Watch and be vigilant because what was predicted here could happen but don't go crazy that the sky is falling. The ones with the cool heads will be the ones who survive whatever crisis are coming.



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Banking System Kept Afloat by Drug Money

Unread postby Dukkha » Sat 12 Dec 2009, 21:54:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')rugs money worth billions of dollars kept the financial system afloat at the height of the global crisis, the United Nations' drugs and crime tsar has told the Observer.

Antonio Maria Costa, head of the UN Office on Drugs and Crime, said he has seen evidence that the proceeds of organised crime were "the only liquid investment capital" available to some banks on the brink of collapse last year. He said that a majority of the $352bn (£216bn) of drugs profits was absorbed into the economic system as a result...

Some of the evidence put before his office indicated that gang money was used to save some banks from collapse when lending seized up, he said..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2009/dec/13/drug-money-banks-saved-un-cfief-claims


Capitalism isn't rotten to its core. No way. By the way, how's that War on Drugs coming along?
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