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Will the cold war return? Watch out for Day X

Unread postby MarkL » Fri 29 Apr 2005, 17:16:52

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Unread postby Aaron » Fri 29 Apr 2005, 17:36:51

Have you seen Putin... guaranteed to be ugly.
The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.

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Unread postby BiGG » Fri 29 Apr 2005, 18:21:05

OK, now just a goddamned minute here! Are you trying to tell us Vladimir isn’t a choir-boy and has ulterior desires?

I mean WHAT? You mean to tell me George & Tony aren’t the only bad guys like many run around claiming?

Why, I thought Vladimir, Jacques, Gerhard, Kim Il Sung, Hu Jintao , Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei, Bashar al-Assad, Mu'ammar, Mahmoud Abbas, & all their friends spend all of their time baking muffins & cookies for the poor kiddies at the orphanages? Are, ……… are you sure about this?
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Unread postby MarkL » Fri 29 Apr 2005, 18:57:43

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Unread postby Tyler_JC » Fri 29 Apr 2005, 21:04:12

There is nothing to be gained from Communism! Nothing. Screw "the masses." Dictatorship is always dictatorship of the dictator. Marx was right on one thing. Life is about a struggle between the Proletariat and the Bourgeoisie. I personally have decided that the Bourgeoisie have a better lifestyle than anything that anyone could have under Communism. The USSR was evil from the very begining and continued to be evil untill the very end. I'm glad it's not around anymore (even with the problems caused by its demise). I personally would rather die a free man than live as a slave to "the masses."
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Unread postby pup55 » Fri 29 Apr 2005, 21:13:46

You know this is quite interesting.

The lesson learned on 9-11 is that if a significant, devastating attack can be accomplished by a handful of fanatics. maybe a big scale, catastrophic attack can be carried out on the cheap if you are slightly better organized.

Why spend the trillions on building up a big nuclear arsenal? All you need to do is give each of your consulates around the country a five gallon bucket of marburg virus, and say "on day X. empty this out in the nearest subway station".
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Unread postby Schneider » Fri 29 Apr 2005, 22:47:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pup55', 'Y')ou know this is quite interesting.

The lesson learned on 9-11 is that if a significant, devastating attack can be accomplished by a handful of fanatics. maybe a big scale, catastrophic attack can be carried out on the cheap if you are slightly better organized.


You're right..

Let's do some quick fairy tales : it only take a medium man power (less than 300 peoples),some money (to buy the basics for making hand made explosives) and enough (rented) trucks to destroy the major lines of the electrical grid of the US with a well planned domino effect at key points,expending all over the main cities of the US..8O !

With something like this,the US economy would be put on his knees..maybe long enough to collapse the colossus :cry: !

Oh well,a chance that Ben Laden don't have my idea's :-D ...


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Unread postby MicroHydro » Fri 29 Apr 2005, 23:12:01

That does it. I was just offered a job in New Zealand. I'm taking it.
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Unread postby Chuckmak » Sun 01 May 2005, 08:22:44

the reason this won't happen: M.A.D.
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Unread postby gg3 » Mon 02 May 2005, 03:05:20

As long as both sides are governed by rational people, i.e. people who fear painful death and feel that life is preferable, deterrence will hold. A biological attack is considered equivalent to a nuclear attack for deterrence purposes: they hit us with bugs, we hit them back with H-bombs.

The problem is that martyrdom ideologies, which seek death and offer a pleasurable hereafter, are growing in the West and Middle East. Whether something similar occurs in Russia or China remains to be seen, but it would be highly destabilizing.
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Unread postby MarkL » Mon 02 May 2005, 13:10:07

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Unread postby BiGG » Mon 02 May 2005, 15:45:07

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Using a "false flag" technique, how hard what it be to recruit some highly motivated and gullable (religious) fundamentalists, set up a paper trail back to other fundamentailist organizations and give them the tools to trash our economy? If resource competition became extreme, wouldn't this be possible?


Good point and yes it is very possible for sure. Look at the number of predisposed George Bush haters that reveled in every word of the FAKE military records Dan Rather was sporting around town touting, or the number of Michael Moore followers that believe he actually tells the truth whenever he opens his jowls even though reality says he is proven beyond even a reasonable doubt to be nothing more than a liar, fraud, & cheat extraordinaire.

People are generally only into hearing sound-bites supporting their preconceived notions and the Information Age feeds that into frenzy quickly since today every kook, crack-pot, & soothsayer has a web page easily accessed within moments.

You don’t even need a paper trail, you just need a webpage saying its so and the believers will come out of the woodwork more than willing to help fester the lies into reality and they will find many that will want to join them. Look at 9/11 and the nonstop foray of those who just “know” George Bush flew those jets into the WTC via remote control even though the only thing they have supporting those notions is just another list of kooks, crack-pots, & soothsayers spreading just another list of lies, fraud, & cheats.
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Unread postby smiley » Mon 02 May 2005, 16:03:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou're right..

Let's do some quick fairy tales : it only take a medium man power (less than 300 peoples),some money (to buy the basics for making hand made explosives) and enough (rented) trucks to destroy the major lines of the electrical grid of the US with a well planned domino effect at key points,expending all over the main cities of the US.. !

With something like this,the US economy would be put on his knees..maybe long enough to collapse the colossus !


That sounds like the gist of this book.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')hina and the Final War for Resources

"What's coming will be more devastating to the U.S. economy than any nuclear strike..." - The Asia Times

I. Unrestricted War

Unrestricted War: China’s Master Plan to Destroy America is a treatise for world domination written in 1999 by People’s Liberation Army Colonels Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui. In order for China to become a dominant global power over the United States, the PLA emphasizes “The Final War over Resources”, must be won.

The Colonels state that the aggressor nation “must adjust its own financial strategy, use currency revaluation or devaluation as primary weapons, and combine means such as getting the upper hand in public opinion and changing the rules sufficiently to make financial turbulence and economic crisis appear in the targeted country or area, weakening its overall power, including its military strength. Whether it be the intrusions of hackers, a major explosion at the World Trade Center, or a bombing attack by bin Laden, all of these greatly exceed the frequency bandwidths understood by the American military..."

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 8?v=glance
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