[frankthetank]

There are ways around solar radiation...one would be to bury the structure under moon soil... another would be to create a magnetic field (somehow!)... I think gravity may be a problem (its a problem in zero gravity, but the moon does have some gravity)... Another issue is moon dust... It gets on everything and anything...

Someday someone will get back up there...even if its just a couple of dudes...

[DrGray]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'T')here are ways around solar radiation...

[Cid_Yama]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')n Jan. 20, 2005, though, there were no humans walking around on the moon. And it's a good thing.

On that day, a giant sunspot named "NOAA 720" exploded. The blast sparked an X-class solar flare, the most powerful kind, and hurled a billion-ton cloud of electrified gas (a coronal mass ejection, or CME) into space. Solar protons accelerated to nearly light speed by the explosion reached the Earth-moon system minutes after the flare; it was the beginning of a days-long "proton storm."

January 2005 was a stormy month in space. With little warning, a giant spot materialized on the sun and started exploding. From Jan. 15 through Jan. 19, sunspot 720 produced four powerful solar flares. When it exploded a fifth time on Jan. 20, onlookers were not surprised.

This January storm came fast and "hard," with proton energies exceeding 100 million electron volts. These are the kind of high-energy particles that can do damage to human cells and tissue.

The Jan. 20 proton storm was by some measures the biggest since 1989. It was particularly rich in high-speed protons packing more than 100 million electron volts (100 MeV) of energy. Such protons can burrow through 11 centimeters of water. A thin-skinned spacesuit would have offered little resistance.

On the moon, Cucinotta estimates, an astronaut protected by no more than a space suit would have absorbed about 50 rem of ionizing radiation. That's enough to cause radiation sickness. "But it would not have been fatal," he adds.

To die, you'd need to suddenly absorb 300 rem or more.

The solar storm of August 1972 is legendary at NASA because it occurred in between two Apollo missions: the crew of Apollo 16 had returned to Earth in April and the crew of Apollo 17 was preparing for a moon landing in December.

Cucinotta estimates that a moonwalker caught in the August 1972 storm might have absorbed 400 rem.

[TWilliam]

Funny thing about this is how it's being touted as some great revelation. I recently found that Carl Sagan's Cosmos series is available for viewing on Hulu, and during the first or second episode (I forget which) there was a comment at one point about the presence of water on the moon. Not a speculation mind you, but stated as an already known fact. This was back in the late 70's. Tho' no details were given, I assume the presence of water was discovered by the Apollo missions...

[KevO]

the press conference said water 'and other things' that wouldn't be disclosed until further investigation.

anbody got any ideas?

towns perhaps?

[Cid_Yama]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KevO', 't')owns perhaps?

[RdSnt]

The remains for Professor Cavor.

[JPL]

Can I be officially recorded as the first person to invent the word: 'Moonstead; ?

JP

[kpeavey]

The significance to finding water on the moon is that it offers HOPE. Hope that we as a species can make the leap off our homeworld and into the heavens. Hope that the limits of a single planet does not come crashing down on our civlization. It is a single chance to give it everything we have to start over, this time doing it right.

A moonstead has been a dream of scientists and story tellers since ages past. Getting past the dream and into logistics always stumbled over water as an insurmountable obstacle. With water in place, the sky is no longer the limit.

[kpeavey]

Disclaimer to above post:
The term "moonstead" may be a registered trademark, or a copyright owned by JPL and is used here regardless of the need for written permission.

[TWilliam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', 'C')an I be officially recorded as the first person to invent the word: 'Moonstead; ?

JP

[kpeavey]

I hereby retract and nullify the above disclaimer.

[KevO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kpeavey', 'T')he significance to finding water on the moon is that it offers HOPE. Hope that we as a species can make the leap off our homeworld and into the heavens. Hope that the limits of a single planet does not come crashing down on our civlization. It is a single chance to give it everything we have to start over, this time doing it right.
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[mididoctors]

I heard they found water on earth as well

[ian807]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mididoctors', 'I') heard they found water on earth as well

[pablonite]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', 'F')unny thing about this is how it's being touted as some great revelation. I recently found that Carl Sagan's Cosmos series is available for viewing on Hulu, and during the first or second episode (I forget which) there was a comment at one point about the presence of water on the moon. Not a speculation mind you, but stated as an already known fact. This was back in the late 70's. Tho' no details were given, I assume the presence of water was discovered by the Apollo missions...

[hillsidedigger]

It would be much easier and feasible to terra-form Anactica, the Sahara or the seabed 5 miles down than to try to survive on the Moon or Mars.

[DrGray]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hillsidedigger', 'I')t would be much easier and feasible to terra-form Anactica, the Sahara or the seabed 5 miles down than to try to survive on the Moon or Mars.

[Sys1]

We humans are so eagger to walk on sterile planets that after admitting it's really too damn hard for our little brains to do so, we figured out it would be great to sterilize our own planet.

Every day, we work hard on it. We decimate as many species and forests as possible, we vomit chemical waste in the atmosphere and oceans at an increasing rate, we do more and more babies, we want everyone to be part of our great project. Space conquest? Please consume! Rendez-vous in 2080!

"Welcome to Mars? Venus? Moon? The future awaits us!
Imagine drylands all other the planet, families wearing masks enjoying orange sky of our new world!
Wanna eat something? Why not those Soylent Green crafted by Chindusa Infinite Growth Corporation (r) (tm) (c)?
It's green, it's tasty, children love it because of its shape looking like Roswell's head! Yummy!

And when the evening come, don't forget to get back to your subhouse built 50 meters underground because of the nuclear waste blizzard! While everything will look like hell outside, why not enjoying with Grand'pa a 3D simulation of the Earth on your virtual crossflat screen where you will see how beautifull was Earth before all this shit..."

This was a commercial message who came out from LHC after a supposed bird accident last week.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sys1', '
')we figured out it would be great to sterilize our own planet.