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Telephone Company Is Arm Of Government

Unread postby mattduke » Fri 09 Oct 2009, 19:22:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Department of Justice has finally admitted it in court papers: The nation’s telecom companies are an arm of the government — at least when it comes to secret spying.

Fortunately, a judge says that relationship isn’t enough to squash a rights group’s open records request for communications between the nation’s telecoms and the feds.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation wanted to see what role telecom lobbying of Justice Department played when the government began its year-long, and ultimately successful, push to win retroactive immunity for AT&T and others being sued for unlawfully spying on American citizens.

The feds argued that the documents showing consultation over the controversial telecom immunity proposal weren’t subject to the Freedom of Information Act since they were protected as “intra-agency” records:

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Re: Telephone Company Is Arm Of Government

Unread postby Homesteader » Sat 10 Oct 2009, 01:19:10

So are we living in a modern version of 1930's Germany or the Soviet Union?
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Re: Telephone Company Is Arm Of Government

Unread postby mos6507 » Sat 10 Oct 2009, 05:44:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', 'S')o are we living in a modern version of 1930's Germany or the Soviet Union?


Did either of them have Wal-Marts?
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Re: Telephone Company Is Arm Of Government

Unread postby dinopello » Sat 10 Oct 2009, 07:31:19

Should of known that guy was a stooge

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Re: Telephone Company Is Arm Of Government

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sat 10 Oct 2009, 08:10:22

Haven't read the transcripts. I bet they don't say they have been recording everything since 01/02? For posterity.
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Re: Telephone Company Is Arm Of Government

Unread postby Homesteader » Sat 10 Oct 2009, 08:37:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', 'S')o are we living in a modern version of 1930's Germany or the Soviet Union?


Did either of them have Wal-Marts?


Hence my inclusion of the word "modern".

What bug has gone up your butt lately anyways Mos? You used to add to the debate.
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Re: Telephone Company Is Arm Of Government

Unread postby basil_hayden » Sat 10 Oct 2009, 11:58:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', 'S')o are we living in a modern version of 1930's Germany or the Soviet Union?


Did either of them have Wal-Marts?


Hence my inclusion of the word "modern".

What bug has gone up your butt lately anyways Mos? You used to add to the debate.



When? Could you point it out for me?
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Re: Telephone Company Is Arm Of Government

Unread postby Jotapay » Sun 11 Oct 2009, 21:54:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', 'N')othing new. You Yanks have a station over here, at Menwith Hill in England, not far from where I live, listening to EVERYTHING & EVERYONE over here.

The Menwith Hill spy base near Harrogate in North Yorkshire, England, is the largest electronic monitoring station in the world. Run by the National Security Agency (NSA) of the United States, it is one of a global network of Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) bases, which monitors the world's communications and relays information to NSA HQ at Fort Meade in Maryland, USA.

http://cndyorks.gn.apc.org/mhs/

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