[Arthur75]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', '
')
Yep keep dishing us Americans but never forget, its the French pu$$ies that could not defend yourself against the Nazi's, but who came and saved your a$$, Guess ??, or would you rather been speaking German instead..

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Arthur75', 'S')o the US is definitely dead ? You just gave up ?
Bunch of fat fucks pussies, disgusting

[Arthur75]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '
')I have some serious doubts thety would let their streets and their schools look like that:

[dissident]

Russophobe blowhard Pretorian on his little crusade to rewrite history. If it wasn't for the USSR, Europe would be run by the Nazis. Since Hitler openly proclaimed his desire to kill off jews, gypsies and slavs there would be no Poland, Czechoslovakia and Ukraine. "New Europe" wouldn't exist to lick W's balls. Since US corporations were supplying Hitler with oil and machinery and Prescott Bush was offering the Nazis finance, it is hard to believe that the US would fight a war in Europe. Pearl Harbour was all about Japan and not Germany. The only enemy in Europe that the US was concerned about was communism.

[Serial_Worrier]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissident', 'R')ussophobe blowhard Pretorian on his little crusade to rewrite history. If it wasn't for the USSR, Europe would be run by the Nazis. Since Hitler openly proclaimed his desire to kill off jews, gypsies and slavs there would be no Poland, Czechoslovakia and Ukraine. "New Europe" wouldn't exist to lick W's balls. Since US corporations were supplying Hitler with oil and machinery and Prescott Bush was offering the Nazis finance, it is hard to believe that the US would fight a war in Europe. Pearl Harbour was all about Japan and not Germany. The only enemy in Europe that the US was concerned about was communism.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Arthur75', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '
')I have some serious doubts thety would let their streets and their schools look like that:

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissident', 'R')ussophobe blowhard Pretorian on his little crusade to rewrite history. If it wasn't for the USSR, Europe would be run by the Nazis. Since Hitler openly proclaimed his desire to kill off jews, gypsies and slavs there would be no Poland, Czechoslovakia and Ukraine. "New Europe" wouldn't exist to lick W's balls. Since US corporations were supplying Hitler with oil and machinery and Prescott Bush was offering the Nazis finance, it is hard to believe that the US would fight a war in Europe. Pearl Harbour was all about Japan and not Germany. The only enemy in Europe that the US was concerned about was communism.

[Cloud9]

You are right, Uncle Joe saved Euriope, the 8th Air Force had nothing to do with it.

[Arthur75]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Exxon’s Tillerson: Forget Cap-and-Trade, Carbon Tax is the Answer

Here’s a question: When the head of Exxon, the world’s biggest publicly-traded energy company, calls for a carbon tax, is that serious or is it just a tactic to avoid any action on climate change?

Exxon chief executive Rex Tillerson renewed his attack in a speech last night on a cap-and-trade plan, like that included in the latest Senate climate bill, and again explained his preference for a straight tax on carbon emissions. He’s been down that road before, though now he’s gotten into Washington’s spirit of euphemisms: “I know that’s hard for a politician to say, so we have given it a new name. We call it a ‘refundable greenhouse gas emissions fee.’”

His arguments were similar too: A cap-and-trade scheme means volatility, bigger government, and a government picking winners and losers. Companies investing tens of billions of dollars a year don’t like volatility. Without steady investment, technology will suffer, and without technology, the energy—and environmental–future looks bleak.

But when the boss of Exxon attacks climate-change legislation, skepticism is usually in order. “We think it’s fair to view Exxon’s opposition to cap-and-trade – Tillerson’s reasonable critiques notwithstanding – as a tactic meant to delay passage of meaningful legislation,” argue the folks at Green Energy Reporter.

Mr. Tillerson addressed that head on:

Now, some people have suggested that a revenue-neutral carbon tax has no chance of gaining sufficient support in Congress to become law. They say a carbon tax is too politically sensitive and that it is easier and more politically expedient to support a cap-and-trade approach, because the public will never figure out where it is hitting them. They will just know they hurt somewhere in their pocketbook.
I disagree with this assessment. I believe the American people want climate policy to be transparent, honest, and effective. Economists generally agree that achieving a given emissions target costs less under a tax or fee approach than under a cap-and-trade system. I firmly believe it is not too late for Congress to consider a carbon tax as the better policy approach for addressing the risks of climate change. Indeed, there has never been a more opportune time for Congress to pursue this course of action.

A movement, like the call for a carbon tax, that can gather Al Gore, James Hansen, Rex Tillerson, Peter Orszag and Greg Mankiw under one roof must have something going for it.

Is it time, as Mr. Tillerson suggests, for Congress to give up on cap-and-trade and take a carbon tax seriously?

[SeaGypsy]

Not while the corporates sponsor political parties.

[dissident]

Bombing Dresden did squat to win the war in Europe. The Nazis had to move their big guns and men from their western fortifications to the Eastern front, which was consuming 80% of German resources. You "win wars by air" fags really are clueless. I wonder why all that bombing did not degrade German military activity on the eastern front, according to your claims the Germans should have withered away at the root.

Anyway, all of the US effort in Europe was in the final 11 months of the war when it was clear that the Nazis were losing to the Soviets. Obviously it was time to save what could be saved from Uncle Joe. Funny to hear the spin about how the US won the war. Must have been its intimidating strength forcing Germans to surrender in droves rather than fighting. On the eastern front they fought to the death since Russians were so weak and cowardly.

[SeaGypsy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissident', 'B')ombing Dresden did squat to win the war in Europe. The Nazis had to move their big guns and men from their western fortifications to the Eastern front, which was consuming 80% of German resources. You "win wars by air" fags really are clueless. I wonder why all that bombing did not degrade German military activity on the eastern front, according to your claims the Germans should have withered away at the root.

Anyway, all of the US effort in Europe was in the final 11 months of the war when it was clear that the Nazis were losing to the Soviets. Obviously it was time to save what could be saved from Uncle Joe. Funny to hear the spin about how the US won the war. Must have been its intimidating strength forcing Germans to surrender in droves rather than fighting. On the eastern front they fought to the death since Russians were so weak and cowardly.

[Arthur75]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'N')ot while the corporates sponsor political parties.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Arthur75', '
')Why the gas tax in the US should stay at such a low level compared to any other developed country for instance ?

[Arthur75]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Arthur75', '
')Why the gas tax in the US should stay at such a low level compared to any other developed country for instance ?

[SeaGypsy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Arthur75', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Arthur75', '
')Why the gas tax in the US should stay at such a low level compared to any other developed country for instance ?

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Arthur75', '
')Yeah ok, but I must say I'm a bit amazed by the total lack of discussion regarding possible political measures to tackle PO on this board.

[SeaGypsy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Arthur75', '
')Yeah ok, but I must say I'm a bit amazed by the total lack of discussion regarding possible political measures to tackle PO on this board.

[Arthur75]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '
')
The only viable political measures right now, while PO remains a fringe topic, is local, like the Transition movement. And even then, only in areas that are demographically receptive to the message.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Arthur75', '
')Frankly I don't think so, first, about PO being a fringe topic no it isn't, even if the communication is full steam on CC, PO ( or call it "energy security") is very far from being
a fringe topic