[Sixstrings]

snip, accidental double post

[dsula]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')What all this comes down to are the competing interests of short term profits for the elite versus the very national security and well-being of this republic. The elite holders of capital don't give flying flip about the future of this nation.

[Kristen]

Outsourcing is absolutely evil. "I'm going to pay my workers five dollars a day, and make shirts for twenty cents, then sell them in America for twenty dollars!" Does anyone else realize how unfair and insane that is!!!

I'm aware that's capitalism for you, but as an idealist i am disturbed that people can defend this kind of thinking. It will be the death of the middle class, and soon, the people of the United States will understand what it is like to live in serfdom.

There are still ways to find happiness however. One must simply follow the first two of the four noble truths.

1. Life is Suffering

2. In order to end suffering one must detach themselves of desires of materialism. Get rid of status symbols and stop creating needs for new products through advertising!

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', 'D')id you ever own your business? Do you know how f*** tuff it is to survive in this world competing with foreign companies?

[rangerone314]

You just have to love it when rich people complain about unfair taxes, etc.

It reminds me of a rapist who complains about the sex.

[turner]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'W')ith globalsim, all we've done is traded our national sovereignty for a shared sovereignty with China and India. Markets have a leveling effect, and what this means is that the American people are going be leveled right into the muck with the world's teeming masses of poor.

[Roy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') oppose immigration. However I oppose it because I believe the cultural change associated with it will lead to problems and because for me personally a mult-cultural society lowers the quality of life.

However I do not oppose immigration for reason of "they take my high paying job". The world is global and you have to be able to compete. You're either cheap, or you're smart. But expensive and stupid won't work.

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Since most people are the latter and not the former (workers not owners), I don't think you'll find a whole l that would agree with you. I certainly don't. Perhaps you would also like to tell us how great free-trade-globalism is for the US economy and all of us who participate in it, as well?


Yes, most people are the follower type who just want to go to work, get paid real high, and go home. If they could think they wouldn't be followers.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roy', 'S')o you say you oppose immigration above and you say that immigration degrades our culture.

Ok. But previously you admitted that you hire H1B's, which directly contradicts your statements above.

If I oppose something I don't do it. Doing otherwise would cause me some serious emotional distress.

So, being a thinker as you claim to be: how do your actions affect you emotionally? Can you sleep at night going against your own (self admitted) racist, xenophobic beliefs just to make a buck?

Your life must be a living hell.

LMAO

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roy', 'I')f I oppose something I don't do it. Doing otherwise would cause me some serious emotional distress.

So, being a thinker as you claim to be: how do your actions affect you emotionally? Can you sleep at night going against your own (self admitted) racist, xenophobic beliefs just to make a buck?

Your life must be a living hell.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('turner', '[')b]When countries allow cheap imports in and their own companies to outsource labour abroad it should come as absolutely no surprise that their own labour markets will be decimated.It's obvious that local labour will not be able to compete with the poor wages paid in the manufacturing countries of Asia and elsewhere.

[HeckuvaJob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', 'A')nd yes, I'm xenophobic, and I'm proud of it. And I'm also a racist. And I'm proud of that, too.

[turner]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('turner', '[')b]When countries allow cheap imports in and their own companies to outsource labour abroad it should come as absolutely no surprise that their own labour markets will be decimated.It's obvious that local labour will not be able to compete with the poor wages paid in the manufacturing countries of Asia and elsewhere.

[Eddie_lomax]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')Oh, and let's not forget the open floodgates of the H1B visas.

[Eddie_lomax]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'W')ith globalsim, all we've done is traded our national sovereignty for a shared sovereignty with China and India. Markets have a leveling effect, and what this means is that the American people are going be leveled right into the muck with the world's teeming masses of poor.

[The_Toecutter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'B')ut employees have little loyalty these days. If you spend thousands of dollars training them and they disappear the minute they have their certifications, where does that leave the employer?

[MarkJ]

When the semi-skilled and skilled labor market was tight, we used to spend thousands per tech trainee every year, plus the costs of certification, specialized training, vehicles, tools, equipment, lost time, lost work, lost customers, mistakes, call-backs, spoon-feeding, babysitting etc.

Once trainees had a little knowledge and experience under their belt (often less than 6 months) they'd often get greedy and ask for more money, benefits, perks, loans etc. Many would target our customers and perform side jobs for cash, often with our vehicles, tools, equipment, materials, hardware and supplies.

After being fired or quitting, many of our unlicensed trainees would start their own small business working mostly off the books without insurance, plans, permits, inspections etc. Many would stay in business less than a year before they were bankrupt, being sued or in trouble for tax issues, licensing issues, code compliance or working without plans, permits variances, inspections, insurance etc.

Now that the semi-skilled labor market is over-saturated with unemployed or under-employed job seekers, it doesn't make financial sense to train unskilled, inexperienced workers. Semi-Skilled workers with several years of experience are often willing to work for a little more money than unskilled inexperienced workers.

Back in the 90s, we'd often have to pay $10 to $12 plus per hour to trainees with zero skills or experience. Currently, many skilled workers with years of experience are working for less, plus they're often working less than 40 hours.

The new "Good Job" is just about any full-time, steady, long-term job regardless of pay.

[rangerone314]

And now we find out how globalization works... we will race to the bottom in wages and living standards as fast as the Third World rises in wages and living standards.

Then Peak Oil and depletion occurs, and then the Third World will be slapped back down to where they were before their living standards started going up, and we will be lucky to have what China and India have now.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ack in the 90s, we'd often have to pay $10 to $12 plus per hour to trainees with zero skills or experience. Currently, many skilled workers with years of experience are working for less, plus they're often working less than 40 hours.

[MarkJ]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ack in the 90s, we'd often have to pay $10 to $12 plus per hour to trainees with zero skills or experience. Currently, many skilled workers with years of experience are working for less, plus they're often working less than 40 hours.

[vision-master]

I C.

How about those A/C condenser unit replacements that you make over $1,000 on.