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Book: "Visions of an Energy-Starved World" by C. Steiner

Unread postby Graeme » Sun 06 Sep 2009, 16:30:00

Visions of an Energy-Starved World

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')HRISTOPHER STEINER was once the happy driver of a sport utility vehicle. Mr. Steiner, the author of “$20 Per Gallon: How the Inevitable Rise in the Price of Gasoline Will Change Our Lives for the Better,” makes this confession early in his book: “I drove an old Toyota 4Runner all over the country for a decade — running the odometer past 240,000 miles — and I loved it.”

Therefore, he is far from gleeful when he describes how many S.U.V. owners decided to ditch their beloved big cars when gasoline hit $4 a gallon in 2008. Then, of course, gas prices returned to more affordable levels. Did those owners act too hastily?

No, says Mr. Steiner, a staff writer at Forbes and a civil engineer. We could all end up forsaking our fossil-fuel vehicles in the near future, he says, because of what he calls the dwindling supply and burgeoning demand for gasoline. He says that “Texas- and Saudi Arabia-style gushers” are a thing of the past, and he points to the booming economies of countries like India and China, which will enable hundreds of millions of new drivers to hit the highways.


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Re: Visions of an Energy-Starved World

Unread postby Southpaw » Sun 06 Sep 2009, 20:43:14

believe me as long you american 300 pound porkers keep eating all that junk food the only cars that can handle your weight will be s.u.v.'s and hummers

just making an observation that's all
truth needs to be told
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Re: Visions of an Energy-Starved World

Unread postby blukatzen » Mon 07 Sep 2009, 13:10:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Southpaw', 'b')elieve me as long you american 300 pound porkers keep eating all that junk food the only cars that can handle your weight will be s.u.v.'s and hummers

just making an observation that's all
truth needs to be told


My father was a "Big and Tall" kind of man, not fat whatsoever, but just a large, tall individual, as is my husband, of Scandinavian stock.
My father drove several VW Rabbits to work during the 80's as he valued the fuel mileage it gave him. The last one he had was a diesel, so he got incredible mileage, and of course, the cars were maintained as well.

I don't know if you recall, but Rabbits were small cars, and someone who was 6'3, would be hardpressed to fit in there. But it was a very comfortable ride, it's good engineering that can make something small on the outside feel (somewhat) roomy on the inside. It's all in the engineering.

Americans are not all porkers. I know plenty of small perkey housewives that drive those behemoths, and could easily fit their kids into smaller cars. They just want safety,

I think safety is the issue here. Especially for families with young children. Comfort is a close second.

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Re: Visions of an Energy-Starved World

Unread postby lateStarter » Mon 07 Sep 2009, 14:30:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('blukatzen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Southpaw', 'b')elieve me as long you american 300 pound porkers keep eating all that junk food the only cars that can handle your weight will be s.u.v.'s and hummers

just making an observation that's all
truth needs to be told


My father was a "Big and Tall" kind of man, not fat whatsoever, but just a large, tall individual, as is my husband, of Scandinavian stock.
My father drove several VW Rabbits to work during the 80's as he valued the fuel mileage it gave him. The last one he had was a diesel, so he got incredible mileage, and of course, the cars were maintained as well.

I don't know if you recall, but Rabbits were small cars, and someone who was 6'3, would be hardpressed to fit in there. But it was a very comfortable ride, it's good engineering that can make something small on the outside feel (somewhat) roomy on the inside. It's all in the engineering.

Americans are not all porkers. I know plenty of small perkey housewives that drive those behemoths, and could easily fit their kids into smaller cars. They just want safety,

I think safety is the issue here. Especially for families with young children. Comfort is a close second.

Blu


Blu, if everyone was driving Rabbits (or something similar) wouldn't 'safety' be a non-issue? Wouldn't reducing the national speed limit to 55mph max also contribute to 'safety'? Why does someone need a 5,7L engine to haul a gallon of milk? Why does anyone need a car capable of driving 150+ mph?

I know what you mean about deceptive roominess. I am currently driving an old (94) Fiat that looks like I couldn't manage to get inside from the outside. Once inside though, quite comfortable apart from the lack of power-steering. It has been converted to run on auto-gas, so mileage is 'extremely' good. I do worry about head-on collisions with all the high-end BMW and Mercedes SUV's I see on the road today in Poland. Most of the drivers are talking on their mobiles while they are driving too!
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Re: Visions of an Energy-Starved World

Unread postby blukatzen » Mon 07 Sep 2009, 21:10:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lateStarter', 'B')lu, if everyone was driving Rabbits (or something similar) wouldn't 'safety' be a non-issue? Wouldn't reducing the national speed limit to 55mph max also contribute to 'safety'? Why does someone need a 5,7L engine to haul a gallon of milk? Why does anyone need a car capable of driving 150+ mph?


The Point exactly!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') know what you mean about deceptive roominess.


Some cars are engineered towards smallish persons, tall and big-and-tall types think all smallish cars are "clown cars", that's not altogether true. People don't "need" a lot of what they think they need. Heck, if I didn't have to tote a lot of shrubs, etc. to different stores that I manage as a regional manager, I'd get a smaller car, and ditch my jeep.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')I do worry about head-on collisions with all the high-end BMW and Mercedes SUV's I see on the road today in Poland. Most of the drivers are talking on their mobiles while they are driving too!


HA! They learned that when they were here in Chicago (or Ireland, or Norway, or England) for a bit, making the money for a luxury country home
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Re: Visions of an Energy-Starved World

Unread postby dinopello » Tue 08 Sep 2009, 00:19:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Southpaw', 'b')elieve me as long you american 300 pound porkers keep eating all that junk food the only cars that can handle your weight will be s.u.v.'s and hummers

just making an observation that's all
truth needs to be told


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Re: Visions of an Energy-Starved World

Unread postby AlexdeLarge » Thu 10 Sep 2009, 14:17:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Southpaw', 'b')elieve me as long you american 300 pound porkers keep eating all that junk food the only cars that can handle your weight will be s.u.v.'s and hummers. just making an observation that's all . truth needs to be told
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