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Re: Sonia Sotomayor - I'm getting pissed off -big time.

Unread postby The_Virginian » Tue 21 Jul 2009, 13:09:15

http://www.alternet.org/story/141197

"My name is Jeffrey Deskovic. At age 17, I was wrongfully convicted of murder and rape, a conviction that was based upon a coerced, false confession, the fabrication of evidence, prosecutorial misconduct and fraud by a medical examiner. I was cleared 16 years later -- almost three years ago -- when DNA evidence proved my innocence, while also identifying the real perpetrator, who subsequently confessed to the crime. Since my release, I have made it my life's mission to battle against wrongful convictions and fight for legislation that would minimize the chances of what happened to me happening to someone else. It is this fight that compels me to speak out about Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor."

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Re: Sonia Sotomayor - I'm getting pissed off -big time.

Unread postby rangerone314 » Tue 21 Jul 2009, 13:53:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mefistofeles', 'S')o how does that make her any worse than Souter, Kennedy or Ginsburg?


I really don't like Kennedy and Souter. Kennedy is that little rat bastard who championed the case about 4 years ago where corporations are now allowed to use eminent domain to steal private property from individuals. People who support these sociopaths are blind.


Maybe the reason they are against people having the right to buy guns is so that when a corporation uses court-backed eminent domain to steal private property from an individual, they will be helpless to fight back.
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Re: Sonia Sotomayor - I'm getting pissed off -big time.

Unread postby rangerone314 » Tue 21 Jul 2009, 14:08:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'A')nd Jotapay my old mate, the governement as you put it is simply a club of the wiliest who have beaten you and will continue to beat you (being the impressionable peasant you are) to the goods. Whose envious now!


Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport :lol:

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The 21st century corporation that steals private property with government backing more resembles Ghengis Khan than something from Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations".

It seems we also socialize the losses along with privatizing the profits.

With enough money and politicians in your pocket, you don't have to possess entrepreneurial competence. With enough money you can also field armies that keep cheap resources flowing in, and have dictators (vassals?) that guarantee a cheap source of labor.

Did I miss anything?
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Re: Sonia Sotomayor - I'm getting pissed off -big time.

Unread postby americandream » Tue 21 Jul 2009, 15:49:11

It's strange how quiet the passionate advocates of freedom were during Bush's reign and Guantanamo. I rather suspect that what we are seeing is nothing other than misguided Far Right malcontents. I will reiterate my point.

The elite ruling America have an arsenal of mechanisms by which to rule said malcontents; the Dems are one of them. Said elite are astute enough to have secured the levers of power over said malcontents and if one follows the logic of the free market to its limit, they have proven themselves the fittest.
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Re: Sonia Sotomayor - I'm getting pissed off -big time.

Unread postby rangerone314 » Tue 21 Jul 2009, 15:56:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'I')t's strange how quiet the passionate advocates of freedom were during Bush's reign and Guantanamo. I rather suspect that what we are seeing is nothing other than misguided Far Right malcontents. I will reiterate my point.

The elite ruling America have an arsenal of mechanisms by which to rule said malcontents; the Dems are one of them. Said elite are astute enough to have secured the levers of power over said malcontents and if one follows the logic of the free market to its limit, they have proven themselves the fittest.

Isn't "free market logic" an oxymoron, or at least something mythical like a unicorn?

And it is not the fittest that survive, but the most adaptible.

When TSHTF, the "elites" will be in the same position as the Batman in the last movie when he was interogating the Joker "You have nothing, nothing to threaten me with. Nothing to do with all your strength."

The adaptible people will meanwhile hide under the leaves to emerge later, while the dying dinosaurs who seemed so "fit" trash about.
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Re: Sonia Sotomayor - I'm getting pissed off -big time.

Unread postby americandream » Tue 21 Jul 2009, 16:30:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'I')t's strange how quiet the passionate advocates of freedom were during Bush's reign and Guantanamo. I rather suspect that what we are seeing is nothing other than misguided Far Right malcontents. I will reiterate my point.

The elite ruling America have an arsenal of mechanisms by which to rule said malcontents; the Dems are one of them. Said elite are astute enough to have secured the levers of power over said malcontents and if one follows the logic of the free market to its limit, they have proven themselves the fittest.

Isn't "free market logic" an oxymoron, or at least something mythical like a unicorn?

And it is not the fittest that survive, but the most adaptible.

When TSHTF, the "elites" will be in the same position as the Batman in the last movie when he was interogating the Joker "You have nothing, nothing to threaten me with. Nothing to do with all your strength."

The adaptible people will meanwhile hide under the leaves to emerge later, while the dying dinosaurs who seemed so "fit" trash about.


Doesn't the word "fit" contemplate adaptability as well, much like nature has bestowed upon the chameleon a particular adaptability?

The thrust of my point is this...those who complain at their "loss of freedom" at the hands of a wiley adversary...might they not in fact be construed as sore losers?

In contrast, a scientific analysis of the free market devoid of my own petty jealousies (of which there are ample I might add) will clearly demonstrate to anyone who cares to think, that the free market does carry within it, these qualities that bestow upon it, its oxymoronic quality, borne as they are out of envy and disempowerment.

However, capitals failure will not lie there but in its failure to live up to its ultimate promise...of the ending of history.
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Re: Sotomayor nominated for SC - Stock up on Guns now.

Unread postby dinopello » Thu 06 Aug 2009, 16:07:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')Oh come on Plant,,.. it's our turn now. :)


Of course it is. And the dems in the Senate have the votes, so there is no doubt Sotomayor will be confirmed.


How many Republican votes do you think she gets in the full senate ?



And, the answer is 9
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Re: Sonia Sotomayor - I'm getting pissed off -big time.

Unread postby rattleshirt » Sat 22 Aug 2009, 18:36:20

"Power comes out of the end of a gun"

There is no free market in the real world. Such things exist only in textbooks and the speeches of politicians.
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