[Carlhole]

McKinsey Quarterly

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Only a collaboration between the two countries will create an environment where clean-energy technologies can thrive.

China and the United States, the world’s dominant producers of carbon emissions, have adopted aggressive programs to reduce oil imports, create new clean-energy industries and jobs, and generally improve the environment. But the environment that will be most critical to making or breaking the two countries’ efforts to curb the dangers of global warming could well be the market that they jointly create in pursuit of their aims. Unless the two work together to provide the scale, standards, and technology transfer necessary to make a handful of promising but expensive new clean-energy technologies successful, momentum to curb global warming could stall and neither country will maximize its gains in terms of green jobs, new companies, and energy security.

[pup55]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')nless the two work together to provide the scale, standards, and technology transfer necessary to make a handful of promising but expensive new clean-energy technologies successful, momentum to curb global warming could stall and neither country will maximize its gains in terms of green jobs, new companies, and energy security.

[Tyler_JC]

Another thing to keep in mind is the rampant corruption throughout the entire country of China. The politburo in Beijing can issue whatever edicts they want but it's up to the local government to enforce these edicts.

It is rather easy for XYZ Industrial Plant to bribe a local official into giving their factory an A+ rating for worker safety, environmental concern, whatever.

There are countless cases of companies getting credit for building wind turbines that don't work, selling safety equipment for scrap, outright ignoring pollution controls, etc.

[Plantagenet]

China will be happy to copy the technology in the Nissan Leaf and Chevy Volt and sell the US cheap knockoffs of electric cars.

Is that what you mean by a clean-tech partnership?

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'C')hina will be happy to copy the technology in the Nissan Leaf and Chevy Volt and sell the US cheap knockoffs of electric cars.

Is that what you mean by a clean-tech partnership?

[Plantagenet]

You must not know how China operates, Carlhole. They are notorious for copying technology.

Wishful thinking by you and/or the McKinsey report author about China improving their compliance with international IP standards are unlikely to change their existing business culture, especially when their current mode of behavior has been so successful for them.

[Carlhole]

Another McKinsey Quarterly article urging US - China cooperation.[/url]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MQ', '[')b]How China and the US will set the global climate agenda

In December, representatives from nearly 200 nations will gather in Copenhagen to negotiate a possible global agreement for reducing greenhouse gas emissions. As these meetings draw near, many in the international community are looking to China and the United Sates, the world’s biggest carbon emitters, to help set the agenda for global climate efforts.
In this video interview, Kenneth Lieberthal, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and director of its John L. Thornton China Center, paints a portrait of the path toward Copenhagen and addresses the difficult questions both China and the United States must face in the coming months. He also outlines the scope of opportunities that cooperation on clean-energy development could create, the remaining roadblocks to compromise, and his hypothesis that a clean-energy partnership will emerge between the two countries before December.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '
')China has nearly $1 trillion in dollar reserves. The US is STILL it's biggest trading partner. China's Premier has continually re-iterated that cooperation is the order of the day.

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'Y')ou must not know how China operates, Carlhole. They are notorious for copying technology.

Wishful thinking by you and/or the McKinnon report authors about China improving their compliance with international IP standards are unlikely to change their existing business culture, especially when their current mode of behavior has been so successful for them.

[Plantagenet]

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')
Wishful thinking by you and/or the McKinnon report authors about China improving their compliance with international IP standards are unlikely to change their existing business culture, especially when their current mode of behavior has been so successful for them.

[Carlhole]

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')
Wishful thinking by you and/or the McKinnon report authors about China improving their compliance with international IP standards are unlikely to change their existing business culture, especially when their current mode of behavior has been so successful for them.

[americandream]

Carlhole

I suspect the point that plants making and its a valid one, is that the Chinese business model is being milked by an awful lot of self serving people and any concessions to whatever noble cause will be simple windowdressing at best, including any propaganda put out.

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'C')arlhole

I suspect the point that plants making and its a valid one, is that the Chinese business model is being milked by an awful lot of self serving people and any concessions to whatever noble cause will be simple windowdressing at best, including any propaganda put out.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'C')arlhole

I suspect the point that plants making and its a valid one, is that the Chinese business model is being milked by an awful lot of self serving people and any concessions to whatever noble cause will be simple windowdressing at best, including any propaganda put out.