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Unread postby Antimatter » Mon 31 Jan 2005, 06:10:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')arliament Coach Corp., a privately held company in Clearwater, Florida, which converts Prevost buses into high-end RVs, has partnered with Homeland Defense Vehicles to offer consumers a luxury motor coach that can protect occupants against nuclear radiation from dirty bombs as well as biological and chemical attacks.

The idea is to offer the option on the pricey vehicles to consumers worried about terror attacks, officials for both companies said Tuesday.


How many people die in terrorist attacks compared to road accidents? :roll:
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Ford Testifies to Stop Ride Sharing

Unread postby BabyPeanut » Wed 23 Feb 2005, 20:37:55

http://www.bbspot.com/News/2002/08/ride_sharing.html
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hursday, August 22 12:01 AM EST
Ford Testifies to Stop Ride Sharing
By Brian Briggs

Washington DC - William Ford Jr., CEO of the Ford Motor Company testified beforeCongress about the nationwide problem of ride sharing. Ford cited ride swapping as the number one reason for the the company's declining revenue. "These 'pool pirates are depriving Ford of rightful income. Three sometimes four people are sharing rides. Less wear and tear on the cars means fewer new car purchases. That's revenue that's being robbed from Ford."

A recent study by the Gartner Group supports Ford's claims that ride sharing runs rampant across the US. The study showed showed that children under the age of 16 were the biggest offenders. Almost 99% of children in that age group said they had shared a ride in the past week. The study also showed that ride sharing had spread to the Internet in the form of "Car Pool" message boards where the "Road Robbers" set up their swaps.

Many Representatives questioned Ford's claim that consumers used ride sharing to put off purchases of new cars for 3 or even 4 years. "You're telling me that people don't receive new cars as gifts from lobbyists every year? I find that allegation preposterous," asked a Representative from Virginia.

After testimony was completed Representatives from Michigan introduced the Driving Solo Enforcement Act of 2002, which aims to curb ride sharing activities by making it illegal to have more than one person in a car at a time. The bill also attempts to stop government support of this activity by closing down car pool lanes. Persons caught sharing rides would be subject to a $2500 and up to 1 year in prison.

Other witnesses before the Transportation Committee testified that people, often foreigners, were selling rides on the street in cars called "taxis". They shared stories of how they paint their cars yellow and cruise the streets looking for potential ride sharers.

"Mr. Ford needs to wake up and smell the coffee," said Frank Wallace, an opponent of the bill. "I haven't bought a new car in 6 years! I ride with my friends, I ride with my parents. Sometimes I even walk to work. If they pass this law people are still gonna share rides. They may have to hide in the trunk, but they're still gonna do it."

Many soccer moms are worried by what this legislation may do to their hectic schedules. "It might be a bit inconvenient, but I guess I'll just have to let little Johnny drive the mini-van to soccer practice by himself," said Melissa Garrett of Concord, New Hampshire. "He can touch the pedals by himself now and I don't want to break any laws."

Exxon Mobil and the Asphalt Workers of America also testified on the importance of stopping ride swapping.
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Ford's solution to suburban car dependency

Unread postby NeoPeasant » Sun 24 Apr 2005, 15:50:20

Much has been written about how one can be immobilized in the suburbs without the use of a car. Ford recognizes the problem in 1956 and Offers a Solution
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Unread postby BiGG » Sun 24 Apr 2005, 16:02:34

I’m just glad we don’t have to drive old junkers like that anymore and have super cool new offerings like this beauty! The only problem is I already have a new 345 HP SS on order so I'll have too wait till next year

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Unread postby Tyler_JC » Sun 24 Apr 2005, 16:11:04

LMAO!

I love those old 50's Suburbia movies. They are hilarious and deserve their own section in the Oil Age Museum.
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Unread postby bobdrake » Sun 24 Apr 2005, 16:54:55

Bigg did you wander onto this website by mistake?

First that thing about the 600 HP 1 MPG boat now this about the truck/land yacht!!
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Unread postby BiGG » Sun 24 Apr 2005, 17:25:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobdrake', 'B')igg did you wander onto this website by mistake?

First that thing about the 600 HP 1 MPG boat now this about the truck/land yacht!!


No mistake here, I’m fully aware oil is in decline but that doesn’t mean I need to stop living the American Dream!

On that note: I have gotten a real laugh out of some here in the past with their pompous comments about my consumption habits as I imagine them sitting in their air conditioned house, stuffing their pie-holes with Ho-Ho’s while the 700 watt surround-sound amplifier pushing their 500 watt TV is blaring in the background and typing their conservation advice on the computer!

BTW: That 600 HP boat barely reaches 30 mph, I need to upgrade for sure!
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Unread postby Ebyss » Sun 24 Apr 2005, 17:53:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'i')magine


That's the key word there BiGG. Your assumption doesn't necessarily equal reality. :wink:



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hey are hilarious and deserve their own section in the Oil Age Museum.


They remind me of the Simpsons "Zinc" and "Sand" educational movies. They should do one of those for oil..

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Unread postby aldente » Sun 24 Apr 2005, 17:54:07

In "Geography of Nowhere" James Kunstler startes out as follows:

There is a marvelous moment in the hit movie "Who framed Roger Rabbit?" that sums up our present national predicament very nively. The story is set in Los Angeles in 1947. The scene is a dreary warehouse, headquarter of the villain, Judge Doom, a cartoon character masquerading as a human being. The hallucinatory plot hinges on Judge Doom"s evil scheme to sell off the city's streetcar system and to create just such a futuristic car-crazed society as Americans actually live and work in today.
"It's a construction plan of epic proportions,"he intones."They're calling it [portentous pause] a freeway! Eight lanes of shimmering cement running from here to Pasadena! I see a place where people get on and off the freeway, off and on, off and on, all day and all night...
I see a street of gas stations, inexpensive motels, and restaurants that serve rapidly prepared food, tire saloons, automobile dealerships, and wonderful, wonderful billboards as far as the eye can see. My god, it'll be beautiful!"
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Unread postby BiGG » Sun 24 Apr 2005, 18:35:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', '
')Eight lanes of shimmering cement running ...... inexpensive motels ....... My god, it'll be beautiful!"



And beautiful they are! Can you imagine the damage my white diamond paint would get inflicted on it all the time if we had to drive on gravel roads?

BTW: One good piece of advice for travelers would be to stay away from those “inexpensive motels” for sure. I was going to stay at one once until I noticed the room had polyester drapes & bedding, one chintzy little 19” TV, no couch, and no refrigerator! What kind of a rip is that? I was thinking what is this Beirut?
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Unread postby RonMN » Sun 24 Apr 2005, 20:09:52

I have to agree with Bigg!!! I have a full size Ford Bronco (95) with a 5.8 litre engine (351) and i keep it in PERFECT running order (even use AMSOIL synthetic)...what's more is i live 7 miles from work.

Compare that to a little car that's never had an oil change...leaks gasoline...tires out of alignment & underinflated. I'll betchya $10 that my bronco get's better milage.

And i haven't even touched on the fact that they live 85 miles from work!!!

So somehow I end up to be the bad guy!
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Unread postby Yavicleus » Mon 25 Apr 2005, 08:49:14

BiGG and RonMN. I applaud your bravery in driving large vehicles. Many on this forum would be disgusted by it, but I see it as the right thing to do.

The more people that drive hummers, the quicker we can get this entire Peak Oil thing behind us. If we were to all drive motorcycles and hybrids, the human population will only have more time to breed in between now and the crash, making it all the worse.

The best thing I think we can do, is hit the Peak now, and crash before there are 10 billion of us.

So for those that can afford it, splurge, buy that hummer, and drive it like there is no tomorrow, because...well, there isn't. And for the poor? Buy that motorcycle that gets 70 MPG, because you sure as hell won't be able to afford anything better in the next couple of years.

So good luck guys. Keep up the good work. Remember, you guys need to burn up as much as possible, and make up for all of us that are using less. With your hard work, we can get past the oil platau by 2007, and the dieoff can begin in full force.

And keep some money stashed aside to fill those bad boys up when gas is $10+ a gallon. We need your hard work to get through this.
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Unread postby Keith_McClary » Wed 27 Apr 2005, 01:24:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', 'I')n "Geography of Nowhere" James Kunstler startes out as follows:

There is a marvelous moment in the hit movie "Who framed Roger Rabbit?" that sums up our present national predicament very nively. The story is set in Los Angeles in 1947. The scene is a dreary warehouse, headquarter of the villain, Judge Doom, a cartoon character masquerading as a human being. The hallucinatory plot hinges on Judge Doom"s evil scheme to sell off the city's streetcar system and to create just such a futuristic car-crazed society as Americans actually live and work in today.

I thought the auto industry actually did buy streetcar companies and shut them down.

That's what made the movie scene so funny.
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Unread postby BiGG » Wed 27 Apr 2005, 10:34:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Yavicleus', 'B')iGG and RonMN. I applaud your bravery in driving large vehicles. Many on this forum would be disgusted by it ....


Ahhh yes, the alleged victims feeling sorry for themselves again! Yawn. In case you missed something, there’s this great BiGG gigantic economy running out there right now that doesn’t need too crash because if it does you will not need to worry about oil as you wouldn’t be able to afford anything else either.

Economies don’t change overnight and the one you live in ain’t made of just motorcycles & hybrids. It’s made of private jets, yachts, luxury cars, giant houses and all the things we all enjoy on whatever scale.

You didn’t need to use the oil your computer was made from either but you will never see me sitting around getting righteous all of the sudden complaining about it. There’s a whole bunch of other things you also don’t need right now but I don’t see you giving those up any faster then you are getting in line to give your land back to the Indians so save the righteous repartee.

If you are concerned about the future, let me suggest preparing for it as best you can as some are planting orchards and other things of that type that will allow them to live large in that time, just like they are now.
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What Is This? Ford study in Scalability

Unread postby BiGG » Sat 14 May 2005, 21:18:39

What Is This?

2000 Acres including it's own .....
Soybean Conversion Plant turning Soybeans into Plastic Parts
Paper Mill
Power Plant with One Million Kilowatts of Excess Power Daily
100,000+ Employees
Multi-Station Fire Department
Police Force
Fully Staffed Hospital
93 Buildings Totaling 15,767,708 SQ. FT.
53,000 Machine Tools
30 Miles of Internal Roads
5,500 Tons of Coal Consumed Daily.
Three Ore Docks
6,000 Tons of Iron Smelted Daily
Steel Furnaces, Coke Ovens, Rolling Mills
100 Miles of Railroad Tracks and 16 Locomotives
538 Million Gallons of Water Consumed Daily.
120 Miles of Conveyors
Glass Furnaces and Plate-Glass Rollers

What Is This? This is a study in Scalability This is the River Rouge Auto Complex. Completed in 1928 by Ford Motor Company. Part of the recent 2 Billion Dollars worth of upgrades includes the Worlds Largest “Living Roof”, a 10.4 acre garden on one of the buildings!

One new car rolled off the line every 49 seconds at its peak in the 1930's Some think millions & millions & millions of people cannot build a replacement for antiquated oil in the next few decades? Half the known reserves of Oil, Natural Gas, Nearly Endless Coal, Nuclear, Ethanol, Methane, Hydrogen, Solar, Wind, Geothermal + Much More ….. I see bright sky’s ahead.
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Unread postby Ebyss » Sat 14 May 2005, 21:21:02

Where did all their food come from?
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Unread postby BiGG » Sat 14 May 2005, 21:23:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ebyss', 'W')here did all their food come from?


Americas Heartland, the Midwest mostly.
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Unread postby Ebyss » Sat 14 May 2005, 21:28:48

How did they get it from there to River Rouge?
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Unread postby Specop_007 » Sat 14 May 2005, 21:35:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ebyss', 'H')ow did they get it from there to River Rouge?


You cant fool us with your logic.
We wont let facts stand in the way of our views.


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Unread postby BiGG » Sat 14 May 2005, 21:37:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ebyss', 'H')ow did they get it from there to River Rouge?


Trains & Trucks, why? The Cool part is soon they will be transporting that food and everything else with much, much cleaner fuels than dirty old antiquated oil!
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