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Re: Boston Police To Carry M16's

Unread postby vision-master » Sun 31 May 2009, 18:22:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'G')ood.


I know where you're coming from and I completely disagree with your position. You seem to think it's perfectly reasonable that ONLY the police and army have weapons, while the general public, including law-abiding citizens, cannot own them at all and are thus rendered defenseless to criminal activity. You've stated all these things at different times in the past. I completely disagree that law-abiding families should not be able to protect themselves.


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Re: Boston Police To Carry M16's

Unread postby Jotapay » Sun 31 May 2009, 18:31:59

Those Ruger target shooting .22s are some *sweet*, *sweet*, *sweet* pistols. I'd love to get one myself, actually. What was the total price on it without the scope? I actually really want to get me a Ruger .22 pistol and Ruger heavy-barrel .22 rifle for target practice now.
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Re: Boston Police To Carry M16's

Unread postby vision-master » Sun 31 May 2009, 18:33:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'T')hose Ruger target shooting .22s are some *sweet*, *sweet*, *sweet* pistols. I'd love to get one myself, actually. What was the total price on it without the scope? I actually really want to get me a Ruger .22 pistol and Ruger heavy-barrel .22 rifle for target practice now.


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Re: Boston Police To Carry M16's

Unread postby Jotapay » Sun 31 May 2009, 19:35:50

Thanks much. I gotta check that out since 9mm and 40 S&W, not to mention .308, are so expensive now.
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Re: Boston Police To Carry M16's

Unread postby vision-master » Mon 01 Jun 2009, 08:52:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'T')hanks much. I gotta check that out since 9mm and 40 S&W, not to mention .308, are so expensive now.



I sold my S&W 44 mag. :-D
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New Policy Allows Police To Shoot At Fleeing Cars

Unread postby Cloud9 » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 13:05:16

This is going to get interesting.

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/police.dea ... 05766.html

This means that cops are going to be able to unload on cars containing suspects while they are driving down city streets. This means that cops are going to be able to shoot suspects for attempting to flee.

“Gee officer, when did the suspect start to run?”
“Well, I had to fire three rounds at his feet before he broke and run. Then, I shot him in the back as he ran toward his car.”
“Cool, another one bites the dust.”
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Re: New Policy Allows Police To Shoot At Fleeing Cars

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 13:21:25

That's not a good thing.

Someone's been watching a few too many Dirty Harry movies. :(
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Re: New Policy Allows Police To Shoot At Fleeing Cars

Unread postby Umber » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 13:39:01

Look on the bright side. Maybe the Chicago politicians will get the opportunity to eat a few stray rounds as the coppers spray lead at the bad guys....... and all at 100mph. :lol:

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Re: New Policy Allows Police To Shoot At Fleeing Cars

Unread postby pup55 » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 14:49:08

I think this is actually a very old policy...

Wasn't George Bailey fired upon in "It's a Wonderful Life" when he punched those guys out in the bar?
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Re: New Policy Allows Police To Shoot At Fleeing Cars

Unread postby WyoDutch » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 14:58:04

If they shoot at the wrong car.. can the occupants shoot back?
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Re: New Policy Allows Police To Shoot At Fleeing Cars

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 15:09:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pup55', 'I') think this is actually a very old policy...

Wasn't George Bailey fired upon in "It's a Wonderful Life" when he punched those guys out in the bar?


It's definitely been a regular feature in movies for a long time. AFAIK it's never made an appearance in the real world before. Generally the justification for using deadly force is to defend yourself or someone else against being killed, seriously injured, or to prevent the commission of a violent felony. The later, as I understand would include things like, shooting a rapist or an armed bank robber. Shooting someone to prevent them escaping is a whole different scene. It's obviously also problematic in the fairly high possibility of missing and hitting something or someone unintended. Self defense shots are generally pretty short range. Shooting at a car as it speeds away, not so much.
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Re: New Policy Allows Police To Shoot At Fleeing Cars

Unread postby Ferretlover » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 15:14:57

Well, I guess if the gangs can have drive-by shootings, the police can, too.
Heck, let's just make a thing of it--say, on Friday nights, after everyone's looked at all the old cars parked at the local Sonic, we just all head out to that week's area of town and have a good old time. (no mooching ammo)
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Re: New Policy Allows Police To Shoot At Fleeing Cars

Unread postby Arsenal » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 15:39:31

So a scumbag jumps into his car and takes off. Stormtroopers... Oh I mean police fire into the car and kill a woman and her baby that could have nothing to do with a crime. Oh yeah... I can see a s@#tload of wrongful death lawsuits coming down the pipe. Idiots. This is a lawyers wet dream.
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Re: New Policy Allows Police To Shoot At Fleeing Cars

Unread postby eXpat » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 17:07:55

Well, it has been proven a "successful" tactic in Iraq, so why not there?.
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Re: New Policy Allows Police To Shoot At Fleeing Cars

Unread postby Arsenal » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 23:03:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eXpat', 'W')ell, it has been proven a "successful" tactic in Iraq, so why not there?.


Iraq in this case is more civilized. Fewer lawyers. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:
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Re: New Policy Allows Police To Shoot At Fleeing Cars

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Thu 30 Jul 2009, 02:21:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Arsenal', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eXpat', 'W')ell, it has been proven a "successful" tactic in Iraq, so why not there?.


Iraq in this case is more civilized. Fewer lawyers.

You see, if a given lawyer makes too much trouble, you can shoot him and report that he was escaping. :-D
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Houston Police New UAV

Unread postby mattduke » Sat 09 Jan 2010, 11:28:50

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Re: Houston Police New UAV

Unread postby dukey » Sat 09 Jan 2010, 12:33:04

I wonder when police will start driving tanks
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Re: Houston Police New UAV

Unread postby eXpat » Sat 09 Jan 2010, 13:19:30

Is OK, to all people with some electronic laboratories in their basements is worth to remember this:
The United States to consider encryption UAV to intercept the video signal to prevent tampering with Russia
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')nited States 17 Wall Street Journal reported that the U.S. military Joint Chiefs of Staff are now high-ranking officers who are in-depth discussion between China and Russia to intercept and tamper with the risk of UAV video signal. U.S. UAV mission in Iraq in 2004, when aerial reconnaissance mission, the militants who have been recording the video signal. However, because the battlefield UAV had been no large-scale deployment in the Middle East, did not attract high-level U.S. attention. The United States, according to two military officers familiar with the matter said the U.S. ugg bootsmilitary Joint Chiefs of Staff senior military officers in 2004 and 2005, once discussed the UAV video signal a potential security vulnerability. Senior year are not worried about the U.S. military unmanned aerial vehicle video signals have been intercepted in Iraq or Afghanistan on the grounds that there was not a large-scale deployment of UAVs, and they do not believe that militants have such sophisticated technology.

http://jp2506.supersized.org/archives/95-The-United-States-to-consider-encryption-UAV-to-intercept-the-video-signal-to-prevent-tampering-with-Russia.html
in other words, nerds can have a go to the UAV´s too :lol:
Alternatively just put a can in that .22 and shoot from behind the windows. :twisted:
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Re: Houston Police New UAV

Unread postby dinopello » Sat 09 Jan 2010, 13:23:11

The NAS still doesn't seem set-up to support UAV's/UAS in civil airspace. Have they worked out the deconfliction issues? The military still seems to test their unmanned sensors destined for overseas deployment on manned platforms in the US just because it is difficult to abide by the flight restrictions on UAS. If it is true as the video suggests that the FAA was unaware of any flight restrictions filed for the Scaneagle flights, that test/demo may have been in violation of laws regarding the operation of unmanned systems in civil airspace. The local press should look into it.
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