[MD]

Look: it used to take drilling a couple holes a couple hundred feet through desert sandstone to squirt out 50,000 barrels per day of nice light crude.

Today they are drilling through 30,000 feet of rock in North Dakota 100 times to get the same production as one of the old lovelies.

That's two orders of magnitude plus another 5X loss in efficiency for processing scale, giving us a hidden energy crisis just waiting to snap anyone on the ass that tries to grow.

Why isn't this little fact getting its due attention?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'L')ook: it used to take drilling a couple holes a couple hundred feet through desert sandstone to squirt out 50,000 barrels per day of nice light crude.

[MD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'L')ook: it used to take drilling a couple holes a couple hundred feet through desert sandstone to squirt out 50,000 barrels per day of nice light crude.

[MD]

now waits whilst dipshit pull up some example of some short-lived 2k per day well up there somewhere...

[frankthetank]

MD-

BECAUSE "Hells Kitchen" is on and its a two premiere! Get real?! Everyone knows Chef Ramsey is going to scream at all the rookies and with Robert coming back for another season, who knows what is going to happen

No... People don't give a shit as long as the gas station is full of junk food and cheap gasoline. Media and government would like to keep it pushed off to the side and in the shadows. Better not to upset the sheep while they are feeding....and feeding....and feeding...

You don't get how fat people are in this state. Its insane. oh...and sometimes they wear shorts

[MD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', '
')You don't get how fat people are in this state. Its insane. oh...and sometimes they wear shorts

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', '1')2000 down, 20000 sideways, dipshit.

[copious.abundance]

Oh yeah, and they flared the natural gas back then, too. What a waste of energy!

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', 'O')h yeah, and they flared the natural gas back then, too. What a waste of energy!

[Blacksmith]

MD just ignore him, you could write a book about his fantasies. I just choose to ignore his ignorance.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'L')ook: it used to take drilling a couple holes a couple hundred feet through desert sandstone to squirt out 50,000 barrels per day of nice light crude.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', '
')Why isn't this little fact getting its due attention?

[DantesPeak]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'L')ook: it used to take drilling a couple holes a couple hundred feet through desert sandstone to squirt out 50,000 barrels per day of nice light crude.

Today they are drilling through 30,000 feet of rock in North Dakota 100 times to get the same production as one of the old lovelies.

That's two orders of magnitude plus another 5X loss in efficiency for processing scale, giving us a hidden energy crisis just waiting to snap anyone on the ass that tries to grow.

Why isn't this little fact getting its due attention?

[AirlinePilot]

You Idiot, you really are clueless arent you. Your math is so naive I cant even begin to attempt to explain it to you. I'll give you a hint. oil wells produce at different rates at different times.

Your argument FAILS

[copious.abundance]

OK, for anyone who thinks they're smarter than me, I offer the following challenge:

Find 5 onshore oil fields which, prior to about 1980 (or even later if you like), which had a per-well average production rate of at least 25,000 bpd (per MD's statement in the first post) in at least one year.

Heck, I'll even be nice and bump that down to 20,000 bpd per well!

Since y'all are constantly saying, "It's all about the flow rates," individual outlyer wells do not count. The occasional gusher which spit out 100K bpd was not usually a production well, and it was an outlyer. The only thing which matters is performance of an entire field, not just one or two postcard wells. If we want to know how wells in days of yore performed, we need to find out their typical performance, not the performance of a superstar well here and there.

Go at it. Prove me wrong.

[miraculix]

nit picking - aren't we OF2 ?

Besides, you've already proved MD's point twive w/in this thread - inadverntently I suppose:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')I'll assume there were fewer wells in 1980 than there are now.

[Quinny]

Attempting to equate the cost ($'s or Energy) of the derrick for a timber/steel built wells capable of drilling a short depth and extracting under natural pressure with the cost of drilling the depths/distances in the conditions we are currently working is a very silly thing to do!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('miraculix', 'n')it picking - aren't we OF2 ?

Besides, you've already proved MD's point twive w/in this thread - inadverntently I suppose:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')I'll assume there were fewer wells in 1980 than there are now.

[copious.abundance]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'Y')ou Idiot, you really are clueless arent you. Your math is so naive I cant even begin to attempt to explain it to you. I'll give you a hint. oil wells produce at different rates at different times.

Your argument FAILS

[copious.abundance]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', 'A')ttempting to equate the cost ($'s or Energy) of the derrick for a timber/steel built wells capable of drilling a short depth and extracting under natural pressure with the cost of drilling the depths/distances in the conditions we are currently working is a very silly thing to do!