Discussions about the economic and financial ramifications of PEAK OIL
by rangerone314 » Tue 21 Jul 2009, 13:44:42
I have an idea: instead of fiat currency, and instead of basing a currency on gold or silver which are limited, how about fixing a currency to the value of a ratio of a group staple foods, like corn, rice, wheat and potatoes?
Thus you would never pay $1,000,000 for a pound of potatoes, due to hyperinflation.
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by Cloud9 » Tue 21 Jul 2009, 13:54:33
Interesting idea. Sort of a barter system but using paper. How you you peg the currency to the supply. I think even in a crash, paper money which some have said is only 3% will retain some value. I read some where that even during the Russian Revoluton old Romanoff paper was still honered because there was so little real currency in circulation.
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by rangerone314 » Tue 21 Jul 2009, 14:13:01
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'I')nteresting idea. Sort of a barter system but using paper. How you you peg the currency to the supply. I think even in a crash, paper money which some have said is only 3% will retain some value. I read some where that even during the Russian Revoluton old Romanoff paper was still honered because there was so little real currency in circulation.
I was envisioning something like the SDR
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Drawing_Rightsbut instead of using basket of currencies, have the values pegged...
like 1 credit gets you:
1 lb of potatoes + 1/4 lb of wheat + 1/2 lb of rice + 1/4 lb of soybeans.
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by rangerone314 » Tue 21 Jul 2009, 15:41:08
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I don't think you want to try backing a currency with something that fluctuates that dramatically.
There are 3 purposes of money.
1. A medium of exchange.
2. A unit of accounts.
3. A store of value.
Yes, you can use food as a medium of exchange. But it's a pretty lousy medium. My bike for your barrel of flour?
Unit of account stems from the store of value. If the store of value function breaks down, measuring your balance sheet in WheatDollars is foolhardy.
So it comes down to number 3. Is food a good store of value?
The answer is obviously no.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'T')he market did not select those items for use as money because they are consumed and they rot. Tip: never use the term "value" when discussing money.
The PRICE of food has fluctuated but has PRODUCTION declined dramatically? I'm assuming are producing enough food for people to consume. I suggested using a basket of staples whose internal composition can be changed (just like the composition of the SDR basket changes) if there is a major failure of a certain crop.
One would not want to use food as the actual medium... just paper currency.
Even when currency was backed by gold, I don't think you saw too many people trying to purchase bread with gold bars. There is not enough gold to go around to back a currency, but there is enough food.
If there are people there is food, unless you have starvation. And if you have mass starvation, being able to redeem your food-backed dollar is rather academic. There is not enough gold to go around to practically back currency, so it doesn't matter that gold doesn't rot.
I also find it amusing if a rich person tried to redeem the dollars for a few tons of food. It might be practical for middle class or poor household. A Federal strategic food reserve of staples is not a bad idea, and would obviously be-rotated to keep it edible. Pegging the value of a dollar to a basket of foods is not unimplementable.
It would have the advantage of stabilizing agricultural prices (by definition) and would probably help smaller farmers more than large agri-corps...
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right
Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take
You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown
Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy