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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby DantesPeak » Tue 23 Jun 2009, 23:36:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', ' ')“The information that we are getting... may well mean that we are going to revise the numbers downwards,” Fatih Birol told Reuters in an interview. Mr. Birol said the IEA had not made a comprehensive update of the G8 report but that the agency was getting signals the drop in investment would be worse than initially feared.


Interesting in view of the oil price rising to $70 US has not resulted in new investment but lowered expectations.

The question not asked here is how high does oil have to go to increase investment? Or perhaps a better question is - is there is no longer a price high enough in the post-peak world that will increse investment, since higher prices would also lower economic activity?
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby copious.abundance » Wed 24 Jun 2009, 15:39:04

>>> Rigzone <<<
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Is Rig Count About to Rebound? Scenarios for The Future
by G. Allen Brooks
Parks Paton Hoepfl & Brown
Wednesday, June 24, 2009

Last week Baker Hughes reported that their rig count for active rigs in the United States increased by 23 rigs to 899 active rigs. While this count increased from the prior week, compared to a year ago, the rig count is down by over 1,000 rigs marking one of the worst downturns in the industry history. Our favorite chart shows the rig count for 2000-2009 compared to the rig count of 1973-1983. The similarities are stunning, but even more so if one plots the rig counts indexed to 100 at the start of the respective time periods.

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The rig count increase was the first since a four-rig gain experienced during the first week of the second quarter of this year. It barely shows up on the rig count charts. All the rig-count gain last week was onshore as the Gulf of Mexico rig count actually fell by one. Interestingly, the number of directional and horizontal rigs working each increased by 10 over the prior week with the number of vertical rigs up by only three. That would suggest gas shale drilling is continuing at a healthy pace, which could produce a greater problem for the natural gas industry later this year. So does this mid June rig count signal a turning point for the oilfield service industry?

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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby copious.abundance » Wed 24 Jun 2009, 15:45:12

>>> LINK <<<
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hursday, June 18, 2009
Oil and gas industry ‘in a good position,’ study finds
Houston Business Journal

The oil and gas industry is headed in the right direction for recovery, according to a study released Thursday by Ernst & Young LLP’s Houston-based oil and gas division.

The study found that hits to the industry included some scaling back of upstream investment in 2009 and the postponement of some proposed developments. But from overall figures, Ernst & Young estimates that, as the recovery in oil and gas markets gathers steam in the second half of 2009, the U.S. oil and gas industry appears poised to resume its growth and be a key contributor to the U.S. and global economic recovery.

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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby copious.abundance » Fri 26 Jun 2009, 15:10:13

Baker-Highes rig count is now up 2 weeks in a row. Maybe that article above is onto something?

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]US rigs up by 18
By Upstream staff

The number of oil and gas rigs drilling in the US has risen by 18 this week to 917.

The number of rigs drilling in the US Gulf lost two this week to total 43, while the number of rigs drilling for oil gained 23 to total 219 and those drilling for gas lost five to total 687, a report by Houston-based oil services company Baker Hughes said today.

This week, rigs in Alaska gained two bringing the total to six, Arkansas was unchanged at 44 and California lost two to total 22.

Colorado lost one rig this week, bringing the total to 43.

Louisiana lost two to total 135 while New Mexico gained one to total 38.

North Dakota gained one to total 37, while Oklahoma gained two to total 79, Texas gained eight bringing their total to 338, and Wyoming lost one to total 30.


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>>> Rigzone <<<
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Analysis: Industry Gears Up for Drilling as Crude Rises
by Rigzone Staff
Friday, June 26, 2009

After plunging to their lowest levels since 2003, NYMEX crude oil futures have rallied strongly during the first half of 2009 and appear set to move even higher, giving oil and gas companies the incentive to start drilling with renewed vigor.

Raising Price Predictions with Rising Demand

As the price of oil climbed steadily during 2008, passing the $100 mark and moving well beyond, predictions for even higher oil prices abounded. In fact, in May 2008, Goldman Sachs predicted that oil prices could experience a “super-spike” to $150-200 within the next 6 to 24 months. While oil prices came close to $150 in July 2008, they quickly fell as the global financial crisis and clear evidence of a worldwide recession cooled the market.

During the first half of 2009, the price of oil has more than doubled from its late-2008 nadir near $32, rebounding to settle past the $70-mark during June.

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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby copious.abundance » Thu 02 Jul 2009, 15:51:48

Baker-Hughes rig count is now up 3 weeks in a row.

>>> US Rigs up by 11 <<<
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Thu 09 Jul 2009, 13:49:47

OPEC Cuts spending estimates

LONDON -- The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries cut its five-year forecast for oil-field spending by about a third, as the recession and increased energy efficiency led to a steep reduction in projected demand.

In its annual outlook report, OPEC said it now estimates its members will have to invest about $110 billion to $120 billion in exploration and production in 2009 to 2013, rather than the $165 billion it had forecast. The oil cartel had already said in February that its members had delayed or canceled 35 longer-term projects.

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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Fri 17 Jul 2009, 22:08:48

List of cancelled/delayed oil and gas projects


http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsN ... 9620090716

July 16 (Reuters) - Following is a list of some of the oil and gas projects and oil refinery expansion plans that have been delayed or cancelled so far in 2009.

The global financial crisis, falling oil demand, a slide in prices and poor general market conditions have prompted many in the industry to scale back spending and delay projects.
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby copious.abundance » Fri 17 Jul 2009, 23:20:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', '[')b]List of cancelled/delayed oil and gas projects
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsN ... 9620090716
July 16 (Reuters) - Following is a list of some of the oil and gas projects and oil refinery expansion plans that have been delayed or cancelled so far in 2009. The global financial crisis, falling oil demand, a slide in prices and poor general market conditions have prompted many in the industry to scale back spending and delay projects.

I had a feeling you might post this. This list is a great example of why I think all this talk about curtailment of energy projects is one of the most over-hyped things in recent memory.

* June 15 - Natural gas project. Yawn. The world is awash in the stuff and prices have tanked and stayed there.
* June 1 - Delays over a land dispute. Oh well. I'm sure they'll get it straightened out eventually.
* May 22 - An aromatics project. This isn't even an energy project! The delay of this project means the world will be using less oil, not more.
* May 14 - An underground (cavern) oil storage project in Singapore. Wow, we must be doomed!
* May 12 - All this one says is that the Chinese company which was going to build the project will rely on Chinese feedstock instead.
* April 24 - A delay of an oil project in Peru by 2 years. If this delay consists of the entirety of this project, it means the world will see a 2-year delay of 100K bpd from the remote jungles of Peru. Oh well.
* April 13 - Delay of a Saudi refinery. There is a surplus of refining capacity in the world right now. Another yawn.
* March 24 - Another delay of a refinery, this time in Qatar. See reply above.
* March 21 - Delay of a natural gas field in Qatar. See June 15 response.
* March 20 - Scrapping of a refinery project. See replies above about other refinery projects.
* March 17#1 - Delay of an oil/gas project in the GOM by maybe several months. Wow! Several months! Doom!
* March 17#2 - Delay by 1 or 2 years of a couple projects in Nigeria. One or two years. Oh well.
* March 17#3 - Delay of a refinery expansion by 2 years. See above reply about surpluses of world refinery capacity
* March 17#4 - Delay of a GTL plant in Qatar by several months, maybe a year. Yawn.
* Feb 3 - Delay of a 15,000 bpd refinery expansion in Detroit by a couple years. Another refinery yawn.
* Jan 28 - Delay of upgrade projects at 2 unspecified refineries. Maybe if I yawn at enough refinery project delays/curtailments the message will sink in.
* Jan 27 - Valero - a refiner - is cutting capital expenses. Maybe if I yawn at enough refinery project delays/curtailments the message will sink in.
* Jan 22 - Another refinery project, "placed under review." See previous refinery yawns.
* Jan 20 - Suncor delays an oil sands expansion project. This was announced in January, when oil was in the $40's. I have since posted articles about oil sands projects being put back on the front burner. With oil back up to $60 I have a sneaky feeling Suncor is taking another look at this. But time will tell.
* Jan 19 - A power and water project in Bahrain being delayed. Maybe electricity demand in Bahrain isn't growing anymore. Now, WTF does that have to do with world oil supplies?
* Jan 17 - A pipeline project that would have supplied Montreal refiners with oil sands oil instead of imported oil. Sounds like a money-losing idea anyway.
* Jan 13 - I have a feeling this one is no longer "threatened."
* Jan 9 - Delay of an ethanol plant in Ontario by 2 years. Yawn.
* Jan 8 - Vague delays to Ecuadorian oil and gas projects. Again, this was back in January when the financial crisis was at its worst and oil was in the $40's.
* Jan 8 - Delay of some Korean petrochemical plant due to slack oil demand. This is just a petrochemical company - they do not produce energy products, they produce petrochemicals used in plastics, solvents and other industrial uses. Delay of this project will result in less consumption of oil, not more.
* Jan 5 - Delay of a North Sea gas pipeline. Given the recent news about natural gas supply issues in the UK I will give this one half-credit for being noteworthy.

So, out of 26 projects, we have 5 specific projects - all merely delays - which actually would produce oil out of the ground. Two others on the list are unspecified delays or "threats" to oil and gas projects in 2 nations (Russia and Ecuador). And both those were in January at the height of the crash. All the others on the list are either natural gas projects, refinery projects, or petrochemical projects. The GTL project in Qatar I might also give half-credit, but once again it is merely a delay by up to a year.

Citing lists like this as evidence of some upcoming oil crisis is proof, in my book, that peakers are very low on the critical-analysis-skills scale. All you had to do was read over the list to determine that most of them don't even have anything to do with the production of oil - and a few of them could very well mean that less oil will be consumed because they aren't even energy projects.

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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Sat 18 Jul 2009, 23:16:53

You can sigh all you want Oily. And yeah there are some things in there not related to oil or NG specifically, but it is direct evidence that the reason for these project delays/cancellations has everything to do with the fact that globally cheap money has completely dried up and there is a measurable pullback in investment money for projects which otherwise would not be in jeopardy.

You do acknowledge the need for aggressive financing of future projects, or dont you? You do understand that the reason these things are in jeopardy is the lack of that financing, dont you?

This was not the case two years ago. It is hard, factual evidence that global energy industries are in near crisis situations and the required robust investment picture needed going forward for your cornucopian fantasy of production is completely falling apart.

Your blinded by your optimism to see the actual effects the global credit crisis is bringing us. I'm guessing currently this is only the beginning and with any further pullback in prices, or prolonged crude pricing below current levels it gets worse with time. Thats because cash reserves are being used up to continue with lucrative prospects in the hopes that this is just a downturn and soon things will get better. I'd place good money on that NOT being the case. Only the future will tell, we will know soon enough.

Sighing will not change the picture your obviously missing.
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Sat 18 Jul 2009, 23:23:02

By the way if your so obtuse as to not understand how the delay in water and power projects in Bahrain does not impact infrastructure then I'd submit your the one lacking in the critical thinking skills. You need to understand the impacts outside of immediate tangible resource based projects and how they impact the overall infrastructure. Less power and water means potential worker issues and loss of possible plant capabilities due to electrical generation shortages.

Duh. :cry:

At some point its almost pointless continuing debate Oily, you refuse to even acknowledge we are in a period which does not have historic corollary in either the financial or energy industries.
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby DantesPeak » Sat 18 Jul 2009, 23:34:18

Well in case anyone missed this, the IEA already says the combination of the downsizing of spending and intractable depletion will result in falling output of oil.

Can it get any clearer than this?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]"New capacity additions over the 2008-2014 period are a net 470,000 b/d but the escalating decline rates at older onshore fields more than offset the gains," the IEA said.


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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Sat 18 Jul 2009, 23:35:29

Shell considers staff cuts


HOUSTON (Reuters) - Shell Oil said on Thursday it was considering staff cuts at its refineries and chemical plants on the U.S. Gulf Coast to reduce costs in the current recession. Among the plants where reductions are being considered are the refineries Shell operates jointly with Saudi Aramco through
Motiva Enterprises and a Deer Park, Texas, refinery operated jointly with Mexican state oil company Pemex, said spokeswoman Anne Peebles.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE56 ... 7?rpc=401&
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby copious.abundance » Sun 19 Jul 2009, 00:44:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'Y')ou do acknowledge the need for aggressive financing of future projects, or dont you? You do understand that the reason these things are in jeopardy is the lack of that financing, dont you?

>>> Worst of U.S. credit crisis is over, Fridson says <<<

In case you didn't know, during EVERY recession, projects across all industries are canceled or delayed due to financial problems, collapse of demand, and similar reasons. Why should this recession be any different? But guess what? After the recession is over, financing comes back, so does demand, and projects get put on the front burner again and are started anew.

In fact, this is already starting to happen in the oil and gas biz. The US rig count has risen 4 of the past 5 weeks. You could say it's another example of . . .
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'T')his was not the case two years ago. It is hard, factual evidence that global energy industries are in near crisis situations and the required robust investment picture needed going forward for your cornucopian fantasy of production is completely falling apart.

God, this is such a pathetic statement. Here, read this again: Worst of U.S. credit crisis is over, Fridson says. I can find you many more where that came from, too.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'Y')our blinded by your optimism to see the actual effects the global credit crisis is bringing us. I'm guessing currently this is only the beginning and with any further pullback in prices, or prolonged crude pricing below current levels it gets worse with time. Thats because cash reserves are being used up to continue with lucrative prospects in the hopes that this is just a downturn and soon things will get better. I'd place good money on that NOT being the case. Only the future will tell, we will know soon enough.

And you are blinded by your pessimism to see that there is nothing new under the sun, and that the recent credit crisis and recession shall pass, as have all others before it. In fact, we may already be in a recovery, as I've been trying to tell everyone in a particular thread in the Economics and Finance section. And yes, I've even got a $50 bet riding on my POV in that thread, and it's now looking like I'll win it. At any rate, since this has been a steep but otherwise ordinary recession which shall pass just like all the others, the collapse of investment which has occurred in all the others shall also pass in this one. But since you are so blinded by your pessimism, you refuse to see this.

"There is nothing new under the sun." Not even the current recession - which may not even be "current" anymore.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'B')y the way if your so obtuse as to not understand how the delay in water and power projects in Bahrain does not impact infrastructure then I'd submit your the one lacking in the critical thinking skills. You need to understand the impacts outside of immediate tangible resource based projects and how they impact the overall infrastructure. Less power and water means potential worker issues and loss of possible plant capabilities due to electrical generation shortages.

You don't know that! There could be a dozen other reasons why a water and power project in Bahrain got canceled. Maybe they over-estimated water and power demand when they first planned the project. Or maybe some other project got built instead. Just because some particular water and power project in Bahrain got canceled does not mean the workers in Bahrain will be without water and electricity. Bahrain is a wealthy country with s small population. Their workers aren't going to be suffering just because some project got canceled.

If this is the reasoning you have to resort to to make your case, you are desperate to paint a doomerish picture.
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Sun 19 Jul 2009, 00:57:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', '
')And you are blinded by your pessimism to see that there is nothing new under the sun, and that the recent credit crisis and recession shall pass, as have all others before it.


Sorry, more like just facing the facts. Your recession premise is completely wrong. This is no ordinary recession. Yes it will pass, but in the passing the difference will be far greater and it will take far longer. This one is Credit Based. There is a huge difference. Since you obviously cant see that, you wont understand why your cornucopian fantasy is flawed. I wont waste the time on your green shoots mantra either. Its not worth my effort.

"nothing new under the sun" WTF? :lol:
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby copious.abundance » Sun 19 Jul 2009, 00:59:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', '[')b]Shell considers staff cuts


HOUSTON (Reuters) - Shell Oil said on Thursday it was considering staff cuts at its refineries and chemical plants on the U.S. Gulf Coast to reduce costs in the current recession. Among the plants where reductions are being considered are the refineries Shell operates jointly with Saudi Aramco through
Motiva Enterprises and a Deer Park, Texas, refinery operated jointly with Mexican state oil company Pemex, said spokeswoman Anne Peebles.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE56 ... 7?rpc=401&

considering . . . refineries and chemical plants . . .

:roll:

You've got a lot of nerve to cite an example of refinery cutbacks as an example of an impending crisis when you know damn well that refinery utilization is at multi-year lows.

But here's something else I bet you didn't know: US refinery capacity has been growing pretty much non-stop for 13 years!

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But with US TPS demand down 6.4% so far this year, it's no wonder they're considering staff cuts at oil refineries! DUH!!

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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Sun 19 Jul 2009, 01:02:52

For those who give a crap and want to understand what I'm driving at....

With a little help from Karl Denninger....


There are two types of recessions: inventory driven recessions, the most common, and credit driven recessions.

The last material credit driven recession was in the 1930s. We called it the "The Great Depression."

Inventory-driven recessions are primarily about excessive industrial capacity for demand. That is, manufacturers and suppliers of services get too bullish about prospects, build too much capacity and inventory, and wind up engaging in a destructive price war in an attempt to "win". This drives down profits and ultimately forces the weaker firms out of business, ergo, recession - GDP and employment decline. Having cleansed itself of the excess, the economy recovers. The trigger for these recessions is often (but not always) an external shock such as the oil embargo in the 1970s or the collapse of the Internet fraud-and-circuses games in 2000.

The second sort of recession is a credit-driven recession. Excessive credit creation - that is, loans going too far toward "fog a mirror" qualifications (and in some cases, such as the most recent event, actually reaching "fog a mirror") drives one or more asset bubbles. These pop when effective interest rates in the economy reach an effective level of zero, usually because the amount of leverage available becomes for all intents and purposes infinite (Bear and Lehman at 30:1, Fannie/Freddie at 80:1, AIG at god-knows-what, and duped "home buyers" buying with zero down for a true infinite leverage ratio.) This excessive credit creation drives a speculative asset bidding war which in turn causes prices to go sky-high for one or more types of asset.

The latter sort of recession is triggered because the cost of borrowing money is never actually zero, even if people pretend that it might be. As a consequence the lenders begin to earn a negative spread and lose actual purchasing power. This is an unsustainable situation because cash flow cannot be fudged nor can anyone sustain a negative cash flow for very long; no matter how much you start with if you spend more than you make eventually you go broke.

Recessions cannot end until the conditions that caused the recession are removed from the economy. This is elementary logic and obvious to anyone with an IQ larger than their shoe size.

For an inventory recession growth returns when enough capacity is destroyed through layoffs and inventory selloffs to bring capacity and demand back into balance. Employers then hire new workers and the economy recovers.

For a credit recession, however, there is a much larger problem: The reason real interest rates went negative is that debt has a carrying cost and consumes free cash flow; so long as the debt taken on in the credit binge remains the cash flow impact also remains.

Default and bankruptcy clears excessive credit (debt) from the system - if it is allowed to occur. But if it is not, then the bad debt remains on the balance sheets somewhere and the cash flow impact remains in the economy. Employment remains weak, capital spending restart attempts falter as demand fails to return and credit quality continues to remain insufficient to support new credit demand.

The consumer is 70% of our economy, give or take a few points. The consumer's "savings rate" (which government blithely declares as income minus spending), which was in fact negative (that is, consumers were spending more than they made through taking on more and more debt), but is now solidly positive at 6.9%.

The impact of this (6.9% X 70%) is an immediate 4.83 decrease in real GDP. Fudge the numbers all you want (and government will), but this is the math, and the math is never, ever wrong.

The truly bad news however is that most of the time saving in fact turns into capital formation - that is, it becomes investment. But government doesn't differentiate between actual savings and debt repayment - their formula is simply "income less spending = savings rate."

You had one guest on this evening who "got it", but you wouldn't let him explain it, so I will.

Consumers are not saving, they are paying down debt in a furious attempt to avoid defaulting on nearly $1 trillion in outstanding credit card balances that have gone from 11% interest to 29.6% along with OptionARMs that are experiencing a tripling of payments while the home's value is underwater and precludes refinance, all while consumers are being laid off by the hundreds of thousands monthly.


Bottom line this ain't no ordinary recession and refusing to acknowledge the debt and clear it has dire consequences for all major industries and the greater global economy. Including the energy industry.

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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Sun 19 Jul 2009, 01:04:37

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But with US TPS demand down 6.4% so far this year, it's no wonder they're considering staff cuts at oil refineries! DUH!!

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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby copious.abundance » Sun 19 Jul 2009, 01:10:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', 'A')nd you are blinded by your pessimism to see that there is nothing new under the sun, and that the recent credit crisis and recession shall pass, as have all others before it.


Sorry, more like just facing the facts. Your recession premise is completely wrong. This is no ordinary recession. Yes it will pass, but in the passing the difference will be far greater and it will take far longer. This one is Credit Based. There is a huge difference. Since you obviously cant see that, you wont understand why your cornucopian fantasy is flawed. I wont waste the time on your green shoots mantra either. Its not worth my effort.

"nothing new under the sun" WTF? :lol:

This is proof of your ignorance: There have been other recessions which were "credit based!" The 1800's and early 1900's were riddled with the things. In fact, most - if not all - recessions have as one of their distinguishing characteristics a contraction in credit. Read up on your history. Not that you care about such things.
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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Sun 19 Jul 2009, 01:12:20

Effects of slowdown in Alberta’s oil industry will be felt nationwide


“The CERI 2009 Economic Slowdown Projection indicates that $218 billion will be invested in the oilsands for new production,” it stated.
That figure is $97 billion less than previously projected by the institute last year and $241 billion less than predicted in a different report.
The study assumes that oil stays below US$60 a barrel for most of 2009 and credit markets still lack liquidity. Under this projection, economic
recovery begins in early 2010, and oilsands development stalls until 2013, with no major growth until 2015. "

The assumed recovery in 2010 isn't going to happen. See above post to understand why.

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Re: Credit crunch impacts on production

Unread postby copious.abundance » Sun 19 Jul 2009, 01:17:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'T')hink Globally my boy, GLOBALLY

>>> I AM <<<
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')uly 15 (Bloomberg) -- Reliance Industries Ltd., the Mumbai-based refiner seeking to compete overseas, has sent its first shipment of gasoline in two years to the U.S. from its new plant, a shipbroker said.

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The cargo, signaling a new source of global supply, will arrive as U.S. gasoline inventories are climbing and prices are falling. Stockpiles of gasoline rose 1.44 million barrels last week, or 0.7 percent, to 214.6 million, the highest since April 17, the U.S. Energy Department said today. Analysts surveyed by Bloomberg News had expected an increase of 875,000 barrels.

“The growing amount of global refinery capacity is expected to pressure refining margins both in the United States and around the world,” said Andy Lipow, president of Lipow Oil Associates LLC in Houston. The “increased production of gasoline and distillate is more than adequate to satisfy near term oil demand.”

Mike Reardon, a Houston-based vice president at freight- derivatives broker Imarex ASA, said in an interview that shipbrokers dealing in refined products expect the vessel to arrive this month. Reliance will be supplying fuel to Hess from a new 580,000-barrel-a-day plant, Reardon said.

[...]

Global crude distillation capacity is forecast to increase by 7.6 million barrels a day between 2008 and 2014, the International Energy Agency said June 29 in its Medium-Term Oil Market Report. The rise is more than twice the 3.2 million barrels of projected oil demand growth.

“There’s all these export refineries being built in India and China,” Bjorn Moller, chief executive officer of Teekay Corp., the world’s largest shipowner, said in a June 23 interview. “They have surplus product, it gets shipped to the Atlantic. You’re seeing crude oil shipped to Asia, refined, and shipped back to the Atlantic.”

[...]

I mean . . . DUH!!!!! . . . How can anyone with half a brain read that and complain about canceled or delayed refinery projects and laid off refinery workers? The LAST thing the world needs for the foreseeable future are more oil refineries!

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