[dukey]

So I've been researching the AMA a little and came up with this gem.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n October 1976, Chester Wilk, D.C. and four other chiropractors (one later dropped out) filed suit against the AMA. The Wilk suit also named many of the nation's other most prominenet medical groups as codefendants-groups such as the American Hospital Association, the American College of Surgeons, the American College of Physicians, and the Joint Commission on Accreditation of Hospitals.

The suit claimed that the defendants had participated for years in an illegal conspiracy to destroy chiropractic. On August 24, 1987, after endless wrangling in the courts, U.S. District Court judge Susan Getzendanner ruled that the AMA and its officials were guilty, as charged, of attempting to eliminate the chiropractic profession.

In 1987 (1) , following 11 years of legal action, a federal appellate court judge ruled that the AMA had engaged in a “lengthy, systematic, successful and unlawful boycott” designed to restrict cooperation between MDs and chiropractors in order to eliminate the profession of chiropractic as a competitor in the United States health care system.

During the preceedings it was shown that the AMA attempted to:

1.

• Undermine Chiropractic schools
• Undercut insurance programs for Chiropractic patients
• Conceal evidence of the effectiveness of Chiropractic care
• Subvert government inquires into the effectiveness of Chiropractic
• Promote other activities that would control the monopoly that the AMA had on health care
(This was upheld by the 7th United States Circuit Court of Appeals.)

[smallpoxgirl]

11 years? Guess again. The AMA was formed back in the mid 1800's with pretty much the sole purpose of getting all other forms of medical practice banned and restricting the number of doctors so that they could get paid more. It was a cartel from the word go. If you're interested in that history, I highly recommend The Rockefeller Medicine Men. It's been out of print for quite a while, but there are used copies around.

About the only good thing I can think of to say about the AMA is that at least their history isn't quite as shady as the American Dental Assosciation.

[dukey]

dentistry is something i have spent some time looking into, although i've not really looked into the ADA etc. My mum, her health was absolutely destroyed by her 10 amalgam fillings. She had cfs for 25+ years. Like 2 years after having them out she's better than ever, but still not entirely right. A life time of damage from low level chronic mercury poisoning is not easily undone. Me, I am only in my mid 20's. But i too had a chronic health melt down. I was virtually house bound for 2 years. I managed to figure out what was wrong with me, and fixing it has been a long slow journey. I basically was suffering from chronic bone infections. I had 2 horizontally impacted wisdom teeth, ie they were growing totally horizontally. My right side really wasn't that bad at all, but on my left side i had a small infection which carried on for like 3 weeks, and it left a hole in my jaw, and all the gum around the tooth disappeared.

The x-ray looked like this

You can see the bone loss under the tooth. That's where infection has literally eaten away the bone. But I saw a load of dentists and they all thought this was fine. I showed doctors and one stamped her foot and said theres no way impacted wisdom teeth could be causing my health problems then went on about the fact hers were impacted. Another just flat out said, I know absolutely nothing about the mouth. My vet on the other hand, knew exactly what problems this would cause, including the abnormality which showed up on my liver function test. Anyway, I had the teeth taken out last year, my problems went, and well came back again since the bone never healed correctly. Ontop it looks like its healed perfectly, but inside the bone, its basically not healed at all. I had something called a Cavitat scan which is something the ADA has tried extremely hard to put the company that makes it out of business, even though it is FDA approved. They actually have legal protection now from the bogus lawsuits made against the company. In the UK there are only 2 people that have these. I've seen both of them, and they both produced identical scans of my jaw. The first guy had no clue how to fix the nightmare unleashed on me. And the second which is giving me surgery on monday .. will hopefully fix me.
Heres my ultra sound scan

it basically shows blood flow. So 48 where i had my wisdom tooth out has no blood flow at all. Also the bone marrow under the adjacent tooth has entirely died, so that needs to come out sadly an the bone all cut away so it can heal. The guy that i went to see also used an infra-red laser thing to measure temperature of where I had my wisdom teeth extracted, and it was 0.4 deg C cooler than the rest of my mouth, simply because there was no blood flow there. I was gonna post this later but I've not had the surgery yet. Gonna have it either videoed, or photos taken of the operation so I can write about it. The whole experience has left me extremely bitter about 'healthcare' having been so spectacularly failed by the system.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', 'd')entistry is something i have spent some time looking into, although i've not really looked into the ADA etc.

[dukey]

material science has come a long long way since the 1800's. There is no argument for amalgam any more. It doesn't even bond to teeth so they must have huge undercuts in the tooth so it stays in. In the UK, the government will only subsidise amalgam fillings, so the poor people all end up with chronic mercury poisoning. I guess that's one way to get rid of them

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n 1991, the World Health Organization confirmed that mercury contained in dental amalgam is the greatest source of mercury vapour in non-industrialized settings, exposing the concerned population to mercury levels significantly exceeding those set for food and for air

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', 'I') am somewhat surprised at you smallpox, I thought you would be a big supporter of amalgam simply because the establishment says it is safe.

[dukey]

true

The problem I have is something called cavitations.. from poor extraction. Trying to make a well reasoned argument about them is hard simply because there is virtually no literature on the subject and 99.9% of dentists have never even heard of them. There's only a few people in the world which will address the issue, and these people are labelled as quacks and frauds. This is why i want to get photos taken about what I am about to undergo on Monday. According to the literature I have read, cavitations occur 88% of the time from wisdom teeth extractions, but since they are invisible on x-ray dentists don't know (or care) that they could be there. A cavitation is literally a toxic hole in the jawbone where anaerobic bacteria, free from the annoyance of your immune system are allowed to multiply unhindered. Obviously the health effects can potentially be profound.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', 'T')here's only a few people in the world which will address the issue, and these people are labelled as quacks and frauds.

[Ayoob]

There's two kinds of people in this world. People who are into five word slogans and simplistic moral dualism, and people who aren't.

QED

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', '
')
since they are invisible on x-ray dentists don't know (or care) that they could be there.

[dukey]

well before i had my wisdom teeth extracted I had already read this paper in the journal of medicine by hal huggins

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')outine Dental Extractions
Routinely Produce Cavitations

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', 'w')ell before i had my wisdom teeth extracted I had already read this paper in the journal of medicine by hal huggins

[dukey]

well the guy doing the study, Hal Huggins is quite a famous dentist ..
I've read some of his books before.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou obviously have to make the choices you feel are right for your health. Can you see, though, that from my perspective, it seems like a lot of the draw is that nobody believes in it?

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', 'W')ell how many dentists believe amalgams leak dangerous amounts of mercury ?

[Kristen]

I woukdn't be surprised if it where true. We have ads here selling a disease to sell a pill. (perhaps making up) No one can argue that there ads work well. It no coincidence that 20 percent of college students are taking antideppressants. After a month of taking SSRI's your body becomes dependant (addicted) to it. After three missed doses you start to experience withdrawal hence the medical term "SSRI discontinuation syndrome." Although the first two Prozac and Zoloft, have a longer half life so the withdrawal is less severe.

[manu]

The pharmacutical industry is part of the plan of the global elite who control it. The Hapsburgs and the
Rothschilds created this monopoly long ago. Their goal is to make sure no one can grow any medicial plants without their permission. Although it was a big blow to their industry when "Jacko" O.D. on their products. Pharmacutical drugs kill more people than anything else. They only have 80% more of the college kids to go and they can start chippen them. After all, they would not want them walking around like zombies when they stop taking their meds. If they are chipped then they can be located much easier.