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high oil prices DIDN'T increase oil production by much

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Re: high oil prices DIDN'T increase oil production by much

Postby dorlomin » Thu 04 Jun 2009, 23:16:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', '.') In the meantime I intend to stick around and keep telling these people what they don't want to hear. It's rather fun, actually!


Just a couple of example of what people dont want to hear.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', 'S')o, 44.55 billion metric tons = 311.85 billion barrels
200-250 billion metric tons = 1.4 trillion - 1.75 trillion barrels.

Abundance - what a concept! :-D

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', 'O')ne other note: As I look at Turkmenistan on a map, it makes me wonder if the entire Caspian Sea basin is some sort of giant hydrocarbon trap.



Vast amounts of utter shite, delusional ramblings and ludicrous speculation.

How many trillions of barrels of oil are you claiming to have 'found' now boy? What is it a new Saudi Arabia off the coast of Indonesia, Turkmenistan having 1.75 trillion barrels, another Saudi Arabia in western Iraq (that bunch of bull from a Chalabai no less)... the list goes on (and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.......)


You are a laughingstock and a joke.

Oh why dont you explain your whole 'Turkmenistan is an oil trap' theory to us all.
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Re: high oil prices DIDN'T increase oil production by much

Postby Schmuto » Fri 05 Jun 2009, 08:55:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rockdoc123', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd, if you can't raise production over a 3 year period when prices spike to all time highs, then, it seems manifest, you really don't have a 'reserve' capacity at all. What you have is good intentions.


This is rather silly and shows a complete lack of knowledge about the oil industry in general.


Oh please.

It's very simple.

OPEC (and other cornus) keep saying that they have "reserve" production capacity or "extra" production capacity of several million barrels per day.

Well, how is that defined?

If it's defined as "it'll take more than 3 years to get out of the ground," then that makes my point - it's not a reserve at all - it's a potential expansion in the distant future.

Folks keep saying, "it's not a valve you turn on."

Ok. I buy it. But then lets stop calling it "spare capacity."

If you can't bring it on line within 3 years, then it's not "spare" at all. It's like having a "spare tire" that takes a week to get to your car after you get a flat. What the hell good is it, and is it really "spare" at all?

There are two things working against the notion of "spare" capacity.

First - if you're calling your 3 year and out efforts to produce oil "spare," then are you factoring in your losses between now and then?

Obviously, if you could just turn on the tap and kick out another 1MBD we'd all agree - yep, that's spare right thare.

But if we have to wait 3 whole years for you to turn it on, then don't we have to factor in decline rates across OPEC?

And if OPEC is going to lose 3 million barrels a day of production in the next 3 years and the KSA says they are able to produce 3MBD more, but not for 3 years, then isn't it delusional to say that there is some kind of spare capacity there?

As for people looking to "oil insiders" for guidance.

Call them your experts wherever you will find them.

As near as I can tell, most people on the inside of the oil industry are very happy to either be ignorant about Peak Oil or deny that it's an issue - the fact that they know various tid bits about drilling or such is meaningless to me.

It's really very simple -

there is little or no transparency with OPEC. Nobody on this board knows jack squat about true production capacity.

I'd say that puts us on equal factual footing.

My analysis is simple - the KSA is lying about "reserve capacity" and all the new projects are all overblown horsesh-it until they put up the numbers.

If you don't agree with that, prove it wrong.

Oh wait, you can't. Even if you are an "oil insider" with a "job in the oil industry." :roll: :roll:

Final note. When I first came across PO in 05, the first douche in the oil industry with whom I spoke assured me I was being paranoid and that there was enough oil on the "continental shelf" off of California for several hundred years. :roll:
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Re: high oil prices DIDN'T increase oil production by much

Postby kiwichick » Mon 29 Jun 2009, 21:09:01

exactly pstarr

if they is plenty of oil in pennslyvania or texas why get excited

about drilling in the arctic circle????
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Re: high oil prices DIDN'T increase oil production by much

Postby kiwichick » Mon 29 Jun 2009, 21:19:00

schmuto; ex graph

was there an article with the graph?
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Re: high oil prices DIDN'T increase oil production by much

Postby Schmuto » Tue 30 Jun 2009, 02:37:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kiwichick', 's')chmuto; ex graph

was there an article with the graph?


Yes, there was, but Darn It! I did not link it originally and now I can't find it.

wait . . . got it .

The story ran on the wires, and many sites have copies of it . . .

http://www.worldfutureenergysummit.com/ ... spx?Id=142
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Re: high oil prices DIDN'T increase oil production by much

Postby energyhoggin » Wed 01 Jul 2009, 00:22:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('misterno', 'M')aybe they wanted price to go up so they did not produce more


Because of what the oil shocks of 73 and 79 especially did to the world economy OPEC has had a policy from then till now of keeping the price from going too high and crashing the world economy. The fact that prices went to $147/bbl indicates they have lost control of prices, and the fact that after $147/bbl it fell to $35/bbl argues the same thing. They don't want it too cheap, or too expensive. Too low and they are giving away their future, too high and they crash the economy and can't sell as much.



i wonder what would happen if opec cutt production to nothing..lol..i wonder how long opec would be around
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Re: high oil prices DIDN'T increase oil production by much

Postby Schmuto » Wed 01 Jul 2009, 11:22:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'Y')ou may be a Drama Queen sometimes but you sure are right about peak oil :)


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Re: high oil prices DIDN'T increase oil production by much

Postby rangerone314 » Wed 01 Jul 2009, 11:47:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schmuto', 'T')roll - The graph was posted already - from June 05 until today OPEC has only increased production one time, and then only by a paltry 1/2 of 1 percent.

It is obvious Schmuto is incapable of reading graphs. Please take notice, as AAA mentioned above, that this is not my graphic, it is from The Oil Drum (a peak oil site, I need not remind you), which in turn was derived from EIA (or IEA?) data.

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And as I showed with these two overlapping graphics, world crude oil production (largely driven by OPEC) increased and decreased pretty closely in tandem with rising and falling oil prices.

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schmuto', 'T')hey have decreased production in that same time period by a cumulative amount of about 6%.

Typical dimwit reply: Since last July they have decrease production because the price crashed. Duh.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schmuto', 'I')f they had 3 years from 05 to the peak price in mid 08 to increase production and cash in on high oil prices, and they did not,

Except that they did.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schmuto', 't')he only reasonable conclusion I can draw is that - they could not increase production.

No, the only reasonable conclusion anyone can draw here is that Schmuto is blind as a bat and/or does not want to believe that oil production rises and falls in response to price rises and falls.

BTW, thank you AAA. Enjoy your vacation. In the meantime I intend to stick around and keep telling these people what they don't want to hear. It's rather fun, actually!

For the graphs to be more accurate of reality and less dramatic, the Y-axis should start at zero, or the graphs should be based on percentages of 100, to show the true relationship of proportional increases or decreases.

Also a 10% increase in production over 4.5 years? That averages to about 2% increase in production per year... it should be interesting to see what the next 4.5 years bring, as well as the oil prices that will occur.
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Re: high oil prices DIDN'T increase oil production by much

Postby TheDude » Wed 01 Jul 2009, 12:20:03

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Note how the swings in production were greater until '05; afterwards this shows erosion of spare capacity, whether from demand exceeding supply or from geologic decline/lack of investment. The EIA data for that can be found in the Short-Term Energy Outlook, data is in the sidebar on the right.

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The forecast is predicated on Khurais delivering as promised.

Also note that in production '05-'07 the trend was manifestly downwards. Khebab has done much more detailed analysis of this statistically.

This is all liquids, too. WTRG has excellent graphs of petroleum History and Analysis. Wish Williams would update his stuff.
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Re: high oil prices DIDN'T increase oil production by much

Postby Graeme » Tue 11 Mar 2014, 18:20:29

Chevron raises projection for oil price

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')hevron, the US oil group, has raised sharply its expectation of future oil prices and cut its target for production growth, as it highlighted the steep rise in costs in the industry.

John Watson, the chief executive, told analysts at a meeting in New York that the company was “bullish on oil” because of output declines at mature fields, political constraints on production in many parts of the world, and the rising cost of finding and developing new oilfields.

Chevron has raised the price assumption in uses when setting out its projections for investors from $79 per barrel for internationally traded Brent crude to $110 per barrel, its average over the past three years.
That is significantly higher than is implied by the futures market, which shows that the price of oil is expected to fall. Mr Watson said higher prices would have a positive “overall earnings impact” for Chevron, offsetting its weaker expectations for production growth.

The company, the second-largest US oil group by market capitalisation, now expects to produce 3.1m barrels of oil equivalent per day in 2017, down from a target of 3.3m boe/d that it first set in 2010 and reiterated a year ago.
Mr Watson said the reasons for the weaker outlook included a slowdown in investment in shale gas production in the US, which has been hit by the slump in North American gas prices, higher volumes of oil going to the countries where Chevron operates under production-sharing contracts, and some “project slippage”.


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