[Flowerr]

What goes on behind the scenes is always way different than what you know.

here is how russia ran years ago...

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KGB old boys tightening grip on Russia
By Martin Sixsmith
BBC News


Gerry Adams famously said about the IRA that "they never went away, you know", and researching the current BBC World Service series, After the KGB, left me with a very similar impression.

As the BBC's Moscow correspondent in the late 1980s and early to mid-90s, I witnessed the collapse of the Soviet Union and the outpouring of popular hatred for the regime's notorious secret police.

I was in Lubyanka Square in front of the KGB's headquarters on 22 August 1991, as demonstrators toppled the statue of Feliks Dzerzhinsky, the organisation's founder. When a hawser was tied round Dzerzhinsky's neck and the 14-tonne colossus came crashing to the ground, it seemed the KGB's days were numbered.

The new President, Boris Yeltsin, moved to neutralise the secret policemen by cutting their budget, slashing their numbers and hiving off their functions to rival agencies. He renamed the organisation the FSB - Federal Security Service - but somehow the spirit of the KGB lived on.


They were crazy days. So many dead bodies, so many guys who simply disappeared
Dima Fonariev
Ex-KGB bodyguard

In the political and economic chaos of the Yeltsin era, thousands of disillusioned agents went into the private security business.

Dima Fonariev, a KGB bodyguard for Mikhail Gorbachev who set up his own security firm, says private sector pay in the 1990s could be 10 times higher. A burgeoning crime wave also meant security expertise was in high demand.

"They were crazy days. So many dead bodies, so many guys who simply disappeared. I remember this time because I was invited to work for a guy who wanted me to carry a Kalashnikov. But I said 'no, no it is against the law!'"

Inquiries quashed

Not all the former agents shared Mr Fonariev's scruples. Some became involved in organised crime. Within a few years, former and serving security men had replaced the mafia in running the country's thriving protection rackets. Some were caught up in even darker activities.

Mikhail Trepashkin, an ex-KGB-colonel who remained in the service, worked closely with Nikolai Patrushev, who is now the head of the FSB. Mr Trepashkin won a medal for uncovering illegal arms sales by FSB agents to Chechen militants, but when he began to probe deeper into connections between FSB officers and criminal groups, he found himself ostracised and his investigation blocked.



They are just people like us - they are not aliens

Dmitry Peskov, Putin spokesman on former KGB members


"In Moscow, several times, we arrested armed men who were preparing terrorist acts, and then they were released! It made no sense to me at all. So I decided to compile a report for our leadership in the FSB to establish why this was happening. My report went to Nikolai Patrushev, who was then working on internal FSB affairs. I got no reaction.

"Then, in 1995, I had definite information about an FSB employee who was working in a criminal group, kept a weapons store, and killed people. When I wanted to catch that group Patrushev gave the order for those documents of mine to be destroyed."

Eventually Mr Trepashkin himself was arrested. A gun was planted in his car and he was charged with the illegal possession of firearms. He successfully contested that charge, but was then accused of disclosing state secrets and sentenced to four years in a labour camp. When I spoke to him he had just been released from the prison.

Business leaders

Despite Yeltsin's efforts, the FSB remained stubbornly unreformed and determined to regain its lost power. In 1999, Vladimir Putin, then director of the FSB and a career KGB man, was appointed prime minister.


On 20 December 1999, at an FSB party to celebrate the founding of the Cheka, the Bolshevik secret police, he told his former colleagues: "Dear comrades, I can report that the group of agents you sent to infiltrate the government has accomplished the first part of its mission."

The second part of the mission - getting a KGB man into the presidency - was accomplished the following year.

Under Vladimir Putin, the security services have regained their former prestige, their budgets and their numbers are now higher than ever, and they have gained positions of power in all areas of the nation's life.

According to research by the Russian Academy of Sciences, three quarters of senior politicians have a background in the security forces and Russia's largest companies are now headed by former KGB men with personal ties to Vladimir Putin.

The Kremlin argues this is a good thing - that Russia needs a strong hand to restore order. When I spoke to President Putin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, he was reassuring.

"The majority of [former KGB men] are very talented and very skilful people. They are just people like us - they are not aliens," he said.

Turf wars

But there have been suggestions that some of the new politician-businessmen have abused their positions to enrich themselves. Individual branches of the FSB, each controlled by a politically powerful patron, have been involved in turf wars over corrupt business schemes. One of them led to an armed showdown on the tarmac of a Moscow airport.

When he was elected, Mr Putin declared war on the wheeler-dealer businessmen, the so-called oligarchs who snapped up the country's massively lucrative state industries in the economic meltdown of the 1990s.

Many of them were dispossessed and their assets, counted in the billions of dollars, were taken over by state corporations, most of which have a former KGB man in charge. Mr Putin's former colleagues now head up the country's oil, media, railways and armaments industries as well as the state airline.

It would be wrong to say the bad old days are back in Russia: the security services are no longer the monolithic instrument of state repression they were in the darkest periods of the Soviet Union.

But they have become rich and powerful, and whereas the Soviet KGB was always tightly controlled by the Communist Party, their modern equivalents are increasingly becoming a law unto themselves. The new president, due to be elected next month, will inherit a secret police that is in danger of becoming a state within the state.

[Flowerr]

In every country, power lies with the sucurity servies and they are the same group for all countries. since 2000.

[eastbay]

Because the Serbs are Aryans. The Kosovars are Muslim, non-Aryan, invaders.

Simple, simple, simple.

Well, I probably wouldn't put it quite like that... but you're 100% right.

[BigTex]

Maybe they just want to give the tree of liberty a little water.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'I') wish every victory to Serbia!

[FreakOil]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'B')ecause the Serbs are Aryans. The Kosovars are Muslim, non-Aryan, invaders.

Simple, simple, simple.

[Flowerr]

It is all just a puppet show.

The technique is as follows: Illuminati strategists create the Problem- by funding , assembling, and training an "opposition" group to stimulate turmoil in an established political power (sovereign country, region, continent, etc.) that they wish to impinge upon and thus create opposing factions in a conflict that the Illuminati themselves maneuvered into existence. In recent decades, so called "opposition" groups are usually identified in the media as 'freedom fighters' or 'liberators' (recently the KLA-Kosovo Liberation Army).

At the same time, the leader of the established political power where the conflict is being orchestrated is demonized and, on cue, referred to as 'another Hitler' (take your pick: Saddam Hussein, Milosevic, Kadaffi, etc.). The 'freedom fighters' are not infrequently assembled from a local criminal element (i.e. KLA, drug traffickers). In the spirit of true Machiavellian deceit, the same NWO strategists are equally involved in covertly arming and advising the leader of the established power as well (the Illuminati always profits from any armed conflict by loaning money, arming, and supplying all parties involved in a war).

The conflict is drawn to the world stage by the controlled media outlets with a barrage of photos and video tape reports of horrific and bloody atrocities suffered by innocent civilians. The cry goes up "Something has to be done!" And That is the desired Reaction (note: the same technique is presently being used to bring about gun control in the United States).

The NWO puppeteers then provide the Solution by sending in UN 'Peace Keepers' (Bosnia) or a UN 'Coalition Force' (Gulf War) or NATO Bombers and then ground troops (Kosovo). Once installed, the 'peace keepers' never leave (Bosnia, Kosovo). The idea is to have NWO controlled ground troops in all major countries or strategic areas where significant resistance to the New World Order takeover is likely to be encountered.

East Timor, Indosnesia. (9/14/99) Virtually , the same strategy used to occupy Kosovo with UN/NATO troops was applied by the NWO manipulators to take military control of East Timor. Once again, the same morality play is trotted out for public consumption: the local evil and demonic Indonesian Army trained militias responsible for the slaughter of innocent civilians following the August 30 vote for Independence (from Indonesian control), must be stopped at all costs. This time, Australia (to keep up the appearance of an 'international' humantarian effort) will lead the charge with 'peacekeeping' troops. Of course, it didn't take long for Madeline Albright to announce that US 'support assets' will be part of the "UN Peacekeeping Team". In a front page story in the LA Times (9/13/99), Mike Jendrzejczyk of Human Rights Watch (an Illuminati front group) in Washington DC said that it's "crucial" that "peacekeepers have the authority to disarm militia forces and any Indonesian soldiers actively working with them". ]

[IslandCrow]

"One Nation undivideable under God"

Maybe they were upset about the double standards of the USA government.

What would the be the response if the Government of Texas declared itself independent

[Flowerr]

They are going to carve up us, mexico and canada and have one big mush pot. have to have a little collapse first.

[Jotapay]

This gets a huge "WHAT THE HOLY F***??" from me. Truly interesting times we live in. Assuming that this is true, what exactly are they prepping for? Should we be having prep discussions with our local embassies and going over doom plans together? lol

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/schult ... -of-future
http://market-ticker.org/archives/1160- ... tings.html

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;Some U.S. embassies worldwide are being advised to purchase massive amounts of local currencies; enough to last them a year. Some embassies are being sent enormous amounts of U.S. cash to purchase currencies from those governments, quietly. But not pound sterling. Inside the State Dept., there is a sense of sadness and foreboding that 'something' is about to happen ... within 180 days, but could be 120-150 days."

[evilgenius]

Alstry, over at MSN Caps, just brought this up in his blog too. There is a very scary scenario implied here, that the US will declare bankruptcy. Perhaps that is not what they are gearing for, but it certainly is the implied worst case scenario. I may be a deflationist in the greater argument about what I think is going to happen in all of this, but that doesn't mean I can ignore this. If this is true it at least suggests that hyper-inflation is on the table for consideration amongst those that are making decisions.

[Jotapay]

Cash is almost a liability in a hyperinflationary scenario.

The reasons they would be doing this could include:
1. Systemic breakdown (pandemic, JIT delivery collapse, war, martial law, etc.)
2. Crushing deflation of the worst kind (for the government to actually stockpile cash)

[IslandCrow]

Maybe it is just a hedge against the value of the dollar dropping

[Jotapay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IslandCrow', 'M')aybe it is just a hedge against the value of the dollar dropping

[Caffeine]

Anticipated collapse of the USD and UK pound, maybe?

I believe Orlov has written about the possibility of soldiers being stranded if the USD were to collapse. What about the embassies? Similar scenario?

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IslandCrow', 'M')aybe it is just a hedge against the value of the dollar dropping

[Jotapay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'E')mbassies have pretty damned good security, and they have vaults for classified materials.

[Caffeine]

It's interesting that they're being asked to purchase local currencies and not, say, precious metals or other raw materials. Doesn't that suggest "issues" with specific currencies but perhaps not a "global economic collapse" scenario?

[evilgenius]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'C')ash is almost a liability in a hyperinflationary scenario.

The reasons they would be doing this could include:
1. Systemic breakdown (pandemic, JIT delivery collapse, war, martial law, etc.)
2. Crushing deflation of the worst kind (for the government to actually stockpile cash)

[rangerone314]

The logical deduction from specifically embassies stockpiling specifically local currency implies fear of being cutoff from the US and US assistance, and reliance upon local resources.

The question is what would make various locales around the world become isolated from other areas.

The logical deduction here is a pandemic, since countries would go into lockdown mode and local cash would be needed for everything, including food.

The most likely scenario is the swine flu going pandemic at intensity 2 which could easily kill 1 to 10 million (or more) worldwide.