[frankthetank]

I caught the tail end of Huber talking about his book..."The Bottomless Well" Would have liked to watch it. ANyone? Anyone? [url=http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/cspan.csp?command=dprogram&record=541415311]link[url]

[NeoPeasant]

Didn't see it. Don't have cable.

Just wanted to remind everyone that Peter Huber is a key member of an organization that generates propaganda in the service of the corporations that support it. (The Manhattan Institute for Policy Research)

These corporations know better than we do about the energy crisis. But it serves their interests to have the public believe that energy is abundant so that they will not reduce their consumption. IMHO the purpose of "The Bottomless Well" is to deliberately lie to us. A spontaneous outbreak of grass-roots conservation would be a disaster for the investment portfolios of the corporate executives.

[UIUCstudent01]

Yeah. I hate it. I hate that. ARGH! IT MAKES THE COUNTRY STUPIDER!! It makes the people who actually read think there's some kind of 'debate' going on! And they should leave it up to the experts! GAH!

It's the same thing with almost any other issue.

[frankthetank]

he is on right now ... 9:14 central time

[frankthetank]

He makes it sound like technology is key...

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he keeps using this word...ahh...sounds like an economist

[frankthetank]

He just talked about Hubberts Peak...said he was wrong back in the '70's on what the US produces today...said Hubbert predicted US producing no oil today...

Also stated...oh boy...we should be able to produce a barrel of oil/for a century/for under $20..last i checked a barrel was $55...

and

"they will not let the grid go cold" (politicians)...

And goes onto say they'll burn anything they have to not let this happen.

John Stossel is in the audience...

[roman]

Technology is the key? Did he say how?
Depending on 'technology' to solve the energy problem is an extremely vague explanation. Technology just manipulates energy. It won't generate massive amounts of it out of nothing.

(Of course, there's Fusion.... But betting on fusion to save us is like putting all your college money into the lotto rather then preparing for a career.)

[aahala]

You can sell a lot more barrells of oil than books. If the dude thinks
we can produce oil for $20, he should do that and pocket $30 each
barrell rather than 10% on book sales.

The "bottomless well" is where we will be if everybody acts on the
dude's advise.

[WebHubbleTelescope]

Huber wrote an article recently in which I ventured that I could probably debunk every single sentence that he wrote

My attempt:
http://mobjectivist.blogspot.com/2005/0 ... lists.html

[cube]

I think it's good to have an opposing view point. That way when the sh!t hits the fan we can all point our fingers and say, "See I told you so!"

[frankthetank]

I actually was interested in hearing him talk. The interview was from Janurary of this year.

Huber just talked about how technology would enable us to get more oil from fields, how technology would improve the efficiency of things more and more...

He also spoke of all the energy in coal (which i agree there is a lot out there to still mine) and oil shale (although he never did mention EROEI..strange how people forget to mention it takes energy to produce energy).

[WebHubbleTelescope]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', '
')He also spoke of all the energy in coal (which i agree there is a lot out there to still mine) and oil shale (although he never did mention EROEI..strange how people forget to mention it takes energy to produce energy).