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What are you going to tell the president when he calls?

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Unread postby johnmarkos » Sat 23 Apr 2005, 16:13:55

Alrighty then . . . I was trying, in my own silly and backhanded way, to encourage policy suggestions, just to see what people might propose.

I'm glad to see that there is no shortage of irony and humor on this forum! We continue to have an abundance of those resources. And it's a good thing too -- they will help us cope in hard times.

Of course, if you believe that PO can only be addressed on a local level, what's the point of national or international policy?
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Unread postby RobintheDruid » Tue 26 Apr 2005, 12:38:12

Ah Johnmarkos, if its policy suggestions you're after, I would say end cheap air travel, put a fuel tax on motorists to quell unnecessary journeys, downsize the military and double the amount of investment on public transport.

And make sure you start breeding horses like crazy!
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Unread postby EnemyCombatant » Tue 26 Apr 2005, 14:01:30

I had a dream where W asked if Laura could spend the night at my house.

But she was there to spy on me.
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Unread postby savethehumans » Wed 27 Apr 2005, 00:41:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')isten, I'm a little freaked out and I need your help. Jenna forwarded me the link to lifeaftertheoilcrash.net and I was up all night reading about peak oil.


Jenna found lifeaftertheoilcrash.net?! And actually read it? Sorry, that's too far-fetched for ANYONE to believe! :razz:
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Re: What are you going to tell the president when he calls?

Unread postby turn74 » Wed 27 Apr 2005, 22:31:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat do you tell him? What is your plan for the president?



Mr. President,

"I think it's time for you to sign that executive order to classify the Gulf Coast of the US as permanent DOMAIN of the US government and allow FULL drilling of the Gulf of Mexico for all US oil companies based on this article on offshore drilling"

http://www.geotimes.org/june03/NN_gulf.html

"If there's as much oil/gas down there as these geologist are stating, we can SHUT DOWN OPEC and and other non-OPEC nations and fire up this new hydrocarbon source. I suggest high security through the Coast Guard and US Military be employed using "shot to KILL" tactics toward environmentalists like green peace and other possible terrorist threats.

I suggest you come up with a solution to get Iraq on line at 3 million barrels a day and bring our troops home. DIVERT ALL foreign aid that we PISS AWAY EVERY YEAR to this venture. In addition, sign another executive order allowing the IMMEDIATE construction of 1,000 nuclear power plants throughout the United States taking EMINENT DOMAIN over ALL STATES. Bring those 92 Coal Fired plants ONLINE within the next 8 months. Boost coal extraction 400%. In addition, begin conversion of all Natural gas fired plants to Coal. Allow Natural gas to be used for home heating only. In the New Mexico and Arizona deserts, allow Full large-scale solar operations to begin with corporate incentives.

Contact Canada and boost oil production in the tar sands by 500% over the next 5 years. Address the people of the United States with this straight truth about the oil situation and how important it is to take the above mentioned actions immediately."
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Re: What are you going to tell the president when he calls?

Unread postby Phetro » Wed 27 Apr 2005, 22:58:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('turn74', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat do you tell him? What is your plan for the president?



Mr. President,

"I think it's time for you to sign that executive order to classify the Gulf Coast of the US as permanent DOMAIN of the US government and allow FULL drilling of the Gulf of Mexico for all US oil companies based on this article on offshore drilling"

http://www.geotimes.org/june03/NN_gulf.html

"If there's as much oil/gas down there as these geologist are stating, we can SHUT DOWN OPEC and and other non-OPEC nations and fire up this new hydrocarbon source. I suggest high security through the Coast Guard and US Military be employed using "shot to KILL" tactics toward environmentalists like green peace and other possible terrorist threats.

I suggest you come up with a solution to get Iraq on line at 3 million barrels a day and bring our troops home. DIVERT ALL foreign aid that we PISS AWAY EVERY YEAR to this venture. In addition, sign another executive order allowing the IMMEDIATE construction of 1,000 nuclear power plants throughout the United States taking EMINENT DOMAIN over ALL STATES. Bring those 92 Coal Fired plants ONLINE within the next 8 months. Boost coal extraction 400%. In addition, begin conversion of all Natural gas fired plants to Coal. Allow Natural gas to be used for home heating only. In the New Mexico and Arizona deserts, allow Full large-scale solar operations to begin with corporate incentives.

Contact Canada and boost oil production in the tar sands by 500% over the next 5 years. Address the people of the United States with this straight truth about the oil situation and how important it is to take the above mentioned actions immediately."


Were those measures to be taken in earnest, ecology would surely come out on the losing end, and of course we follow. The plain truth is, these resources--insofar as a human perspective is concerned, as we don't live to see them replenish in 500 million years or so--are finite. Would it not be wiser to prepare now to do without them, rather than hasten their exhaust and increase our dependence on them, while destroying the planet enough to ensure its insuitability as a future habitat?
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Unread postby OilyMon » Thu 28 Apr 2005, 00:11:56

The exponential function comes in mind after reading the last suggestion. I think it's fairly accurate to say that everybody here agrees that fossil fuel is a non-renewable resource. It's also fairly accurate to say that everbody here agrees that burning fossil fuels causes damage to the environment that will soon be irreversible. Why then, would a rational intelligent thinking person, put forth that the solution to our problem is more consumption? How can somebody have such a glaring and obvious disconnect and ignore the issue completely and go on to suggest that digging up the gulf of Mexico, strip mining the continental US and burning coal like it's the 300 acres oif redwood forest that was just clear-cut, is a viable solution? Unless of course you're joking....? You are joking right? This is one of those humourous anecdotes that johnmarkos was talking about right? Please god say it is!
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