Peak Oil Profiteering

by **directinfo** » Thu 21 Apr 2005, 01:53:36

A guy on my yahoogroup gave to me the following excellent analysis of Peak Oil Profiteering. You might want to download this file or reference them to your friends who are considering what to do prior to the collapse and remonetization of the dollar and collapse of the on-grid housing market.

http://www.arkbuilders.org/Nathan/peak_oil_profit_I/peak-oil-profit-I.html

http://www.arkbuilders.org/Nathan/peak_oil_profit_II/peak-oil-profit-II.html

These are two excellent visually intensive presentations, especially useful for engaging our short-span-of-attention generation towards the coming crash and relevant necessary economic positioning.

Peak Oil Profiteering

We at ArkBuilders advocate a transfer of fiat-based assets like stocks, bonds, bills, notes and anything denominated in Dollars, or any other currency for that matter, into gold and silver metal (specifically NOT numismatic collector-type coins but the purest form of metal in a recognizeable and traded form). This is basically the first investment steps within a 2-tiered investment strategy for obtaining excellent Post-Peak Oil Crash positioning with as little as 10 or 20,000 USD, bringing 1-2 million in buying power in return, adjusted for inflation.

The first tier includes a return of 10 times for the precious metals investment after 5-10 years. That is the easy part. The second tier of 10 times again, compounded over the first investment returns, comes only after enduring a long learning curve for developments within an organic farm community of organic farmers that feeds a city-power of sustainable size for symbiotic protection and profit. A central assumption for the second tier of 10-times returns is that your organically viable farm, which is in close proximity to a sustainable city-power, will be marginally devalued in price (crashed valuation, popped real estate bubble effect) at the same time that precious metals reaches it's mania highs, which is of course an effect of both the currency bubble and housing bubble popping, not to mention the compounded effect of civilization coming to an end. The investment returns, in fact, could be underestimated as far as I know. This is never-before-seen territory we are entering. The point is to have a plan and a few scenarios already on the drawing board... something sorely lacking today even among the Peak Oil Watchdogs.

Our central question to the masses is: "When are you going to wake up?"

Our central questions to the awakened minority is: "When are you going to end your self-centered focus and begin a life of service to others?" That is where true greatness awaits. Start with your family.

Will you develop a set of viable scenarios to enable profit, inspiration, preservation and sustained good living even while survivors will be looking for a lifeline just to survive? Our position is that you must stand-up now and be a person with a solution at this critical time when virtually nobody is standing up and offering comprehensive family-oriented solutions. We are entering an era of unprecedented need and unprecedented impotence combined.

Total time for the so-called "10-squared profits" to materialize would depend upon the crash scenario -hard or soft- plus local economic conditions within that post-metal investment. About 20 years, give or take 5-years with a little luck on all social and economic fronts.

The working version of this investment plan is here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ArkBuilders_org/message/55

Thanks, as always, your comments are welcome.

Regards,
Tate
Moscow

by **tdrive** » Thu 21 Apr 2005, 02:27:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')our comments are welcome.

by **Colorado-Valley** » Thu 21 Apr 2005, 03:49:28

Hey! That's what I'm doing.

Except my backyard is a 120-acre farm.

by **spear** » Thu 21 Apr 2005, 10:36:48

Thats what Im doing too.
Plus plans B,C,and D.

by **aahala** » Thu 21 Apr 2005, 11:54:42

You can call the plan "10-square" or you can call it
a 10,000% return on investment, but I call it a complete
load of crap.

If you wish to take investment advise from some unknown
person who can copy and paste a long-winded diatribe on
to a yahoo message board, be my guest.

I went to their website(many of the links are broken) and found
this "gem":

"Strategic planning and implementation services are available covering a wide scope of products and services on life saving topics including: Relocation, Financial Planning, Business Planning, Community Building, Energy Efficient Home and Renewable Powersource Construction, Family Protection, Preservationist Strategies and more."

Why do they need to say 'and more'? It pretty well covers the universe
and all its sins. What the hell does that paragraph really mean?

by **MicroHydro** » Thu 21 Apr 2005, 13:07:47

IMO, the ultimate hedge for an oil supply problem is oil itself. On NYMEX, you can buy futures contracts for 1000 barrels of oil with delivery dates out to December 2011. For the very bold (foolish? reckless?), one can speculate on leverage - with the understanding that you could be wiped out by margin calls if the oil market declines.

When oil price peaks, everything else (bonds, stocks, real estate) will be bottoming and you can sell your oil contracts and buy the farm or whatever.

by **tdrive** » Thu 21 Apr 2005, 15:31:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')MO, the ultimate hedge for an oil supply problem is oil itself. On NYMEX, you can buy futures contracts for 1000 barrels of oil with delivery dates out to December 2011. For the very bold (foolish? reckless?), one can speculate on leverage - with the understanding that you could be wiped out by margin calls if the oil market declines.

by **directinfo** » Fri 22 Apr 2005, 00:43:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('aahala', 'Y')ou can call the plan "10-square" or you can call it
a 10,000% return on investment, but I call it a complete
load of crap.

If you wish to take investment advise from some unknown
person who can copy and paste a long-winded diatribe on
to a yahoo message board, be my guest.

I went to their website(many of the links are broken) and found
this "gem":

"Strategic planning and implementation services are available covering a wide scope of products and services on life saving topics including: Relocation, Financial Planning, Business Planning, Community Building, Energy Efficient Home and Renewable Powersource Construction, Family Protection, Preservationist Strategies and more."

Why do they need to say 'and more'? It pretty well covers the universe
and all its sins. What the hell does that paragraph really mean?

by **directinfo** » Sat 23 Apr 2005, 07:26:49

So far, the ideas haven't been too exciting out there.

A couple of guys rightly point out that paper markets will be more profitable than precious metal markets but they fail to say these important words: "short term".

When industrial civilization begins breaking down, don't you guys think that some of these banking instutions behind your call options on oil will begin going bankrupt?

Paper will burn. Metal will survive another 5,000 years, as with the previous 5,000.

How many paper notes have we endured in the last 2,000 years since Ceasar? Any clue? Well, paper continues to burn every year. It is called inflation. It happens when powerful men get behind printing presses.

So, any other ideas out there?

I am looking for improvements on my strategy for defending against the Peak Oil crash.

Regards,
Tate

by **KiddieKorral** » Sat 23 Apr 2005, 07:31:40

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by **mididoctors** » Sat 23 Apr 2005, 12:28:38

How about borrowing a shit load of money from the banks buying into stocks associated with oil... spread them out amongst your mates

then cash in your credibility by publishing a superduperspike report or something equally bollox...

sell the stock at a profit pay back the short term loan and keep the profit

thats pre peak oil profiteering

then rinse repeat until no one believes a word you say

buying gold and silver and waiting 20 yrs.... what a puny plan

Boris
london

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