[Maddog78]

I bought a 2003 Chevy Avalanche new. Still got it. It's been OK.
I don't drive much so I'll be keeping it for a few more years. It's only got 80,000km. (50,000miles)

I like the new Camaro but I'm also not in the market for a car right now.
I guess I'd have to see what state they are in when I do think about buying a new vehicle but like I said that will be some time yet. A lot would also depend on what their competitors have out on the market at that time.

[dukey]

American cars are a joke

[Maddog78]

The last American car (not truck) I bought was in 1980.
I've had German and Japanese since then.
Well strike that, actually depends on if a minivan is a car. I had a Chrysler minivan for a few yrs. in the early 90's.

[Schmuto]

Last U.S. car was a late-90s Dodge Caravan.

Brakes worn out at 15k miles.
Transmission stuck in 1st gear at 20k miles.
Leak at transmission cooler 25k miles.
Steering column defect causes chiming continuously until car is up to temp in cold weather conditions. 40k miles to death. Including ineffective recall.
Serpentine belt slips off, killing all accessory drives. About 70k miles to death. fixed with repair kit having pullies with shoulders.
There may have been others.

Unlikely to buy another U.S. car. Ever.

In order to buy a U.S. car i'd have to be able to look around and see that at least 85% of my countrymen weren't obese slobs. We're a ways from that.

What was that awful movie with M. Keaton about the Japanese car maker?

[Plantagenet]

The US taxpayer has, so far, given GM $1,500,000 for every job "saved."

GM isn't getting any more of my money.

[mos6507]

Wake me when/if the Volt comes out.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he US taxpayer has, so far, given GM $1,500,000 for every job "saved."

GM isn't getting any more of my money.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Southpaw', 'G')M can never catch up with Toyota and personally i think in best case we will all be driving cars like this.
http://tatanano.inservices.tatamotors.com/tatamotors/

only 2500 dollars. it will take a long long time before EV's or hybrids will sell for the same price

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he US taxpayer has, so far, given GM $1,500,000 for every job "saved."

GM isn't getting any more of my money.

[The_Toecutter]

I would buy a GM product if it had a < $30k pricetag, and was a pure EV with > 100 miles range, highway capability, or if it was a high mileage car with acceptable performance, passenger space, and utility along the lines of the Precept or Ultralite(> 70 mpg combined).

If I had $100k to play with, I do think it would be interesting to shove a twin turbocharged Duramax diesel with remapped computer(would produce ~1,200 horsepower in such a setup) into the new Camaro and run it on waste fryer oil... or perhaps with the same amount of money, build a Li Ion battery electric Corvette with twin Netgain WarP 11" motors and a Zilla 2k...

Otherwise, I have no interest in their current offerings.

[sicophiliac]

Probably not GM, maybe a Ford though. I have heard from consumer reports and what not they have greatly improved the reliability and quality of their vehicles. The new Fusion has gotten great reviews and gets like 40 mpg which is up there with a Camry hybrid or a Prius. Also the Fiesta looks like it might be a good commuter to have if and when that comes out.

[The_Toecutter]

I read an article in a magazine at a car parts store. A fellow with a Chevelle SS shoved a 1,200 horsepower diesel into it; he's getting an average of 32 mpg. I've also seen a Duramax powered diesel Mustang that gets 39 mpg combined, and runs 10s in the 1/4 mile.

Knowing this, the Fusion is really a joke. Ford made a concept car called the Prodigy nearly a decade ago. 0-60 mph in 12 seconds, seats 5 adults comfortably, resembles the Ford Fusion heavily, but has about 40% less drag; it gets 72 mpg.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Toecutter', '
')Knowing this, the Fusion is really a joke. Ford made a concept car called the Prodigy nearly a decade ago. 0-60 mph in 12 seconds, seats 5 adults comfortably, resembles the Ford Fusion heavily, but has about 40% less drag; it gets 72 mpg.

[strider3700]

This pole is flawed. I'm neither for or against GM due to the handouts. I wouldn't buy a GM simply because they don't make a single thing I'm interested in. Same goes for pretty much every car sold in North America today. We do have a fair number of right hand drive early 90's imports for sale though and most of them have some nice small diesels in them. They kinda have my interest.

I actually took the time to write Ford and ask when north america would get the diesel focus thats sold in Europe. I was told it was expected next year. That was in 2003

[IslandCrow]

No. The last car I got was a Fiat (no jokes about currency please ), partly because it is easy to get parts for them and these don't cost as much some other cars .

As the local gargage mechanic said, the main cost of cars in now in the servicing - so going for the cheapest model in the shop (here it was the Russian Lada) is a waste of money if the parts are expensive/hard to get [the Lada parts are about 30% more expensive than that of Fiat].

Saab [also GM] was popular, in Finland when some of the models were assembled here. Now the line is used for EVs http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle.aspx?AR=233887

[aflatoxin]

A new GM vehicle?

Not a chance. Then again, I will never buy a new car.

A used GM vehicle? Maybe, some of the older ones are pretty good. GM Became GM based on their rep. 30-40 years ago, their cars were world class. In New Mexico (no rust) there are a lot of 60-70's vintage GM cars that will be on the road for as long as gasoline and repair parts are available.

[Thralen]

Saturn is a GM subsidiary and my wife and I both own them. Wonderful cars, very little non-standard maintenance on either so far (lift struts on the hatches and a wiper motor burning out) and we've owned them for four years or so. So, assuming the Saturn branch stays with GM (and stays in existence) I'd at least buy their subsidiary again.

Little data here, mine is a Saturn station wagon, 2002. I get 25-30 MPG with it. I needed the cargo room for my business as I am an artisan and need to take goods and setup materials to shows. In addition it is good for any of the "workhorse" type of use up to medium level (for example no cords of wood, but a boatload of stuff for gardening or preps). Finally it is good to have with two children to cart around.

My wife's - a Saturn coupe, 1997 (I think 97). She gets 37-42 mpg. It is a good car for her commute to work, she could get better mileage on a few other straight IC vehicles but the price was right when she needed to replace her own car and we've both liked Saturns for quite some time.

Thralen

[Cog]

I've owned GM products most of my life. My first vehicle ever was Chevy C-10 truck bought in 1980 that lasted 19 years and was still running well when I sold it.

I currently own a 2000 Malibu with 160K miles on it and a Chevy WT that I bought 2 years ago.

I most likely will not buy a new one again due to economic considerations but I'm actually looking a used GM products this weekend for the daughter. I've had good luck with my Chevy vehicles so far. My principle criteria for shopping is fuel economy and price. I don't much care who sells that.

[The_Toecutter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '
')Ford Prodigy was a diesel hybrid and by the looks of it, the diesel hybrid powertrain had a lot more to do with the mileage than the aero.