[cipi604]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cipi604', 'I') smoke cannabis a lot, doesn't make you an addict or get cancer from it,

[Cashmere]

Cipi - I stand corrected.

Thank you for disabusing me! I love learning new things that contradict the old things I thought I knew. I guess I was out of date - never even heard of that study.

[bromius]

Good luck with your quitting sir. It is hard, I've had a few bad lapses myself , but if you truly want to quit it is possible. I keep about a dozen reasons why I quit in my head, so when I do really want one, I start going down that list until it passes. Emphysema really scares me so I use that one a lot. Heh, here in NY a pack of Camel lights, (the brand I used to smoke the most) is now in excess of 6 bucks., so that helps keep me honest too.

[alpha480v]

Good luck in quitting smoking. It is hard to do. I know. I quit smoking in 2001. But you can do it. You will feel better once the cravings are over. Your taste and smell will improve. You won't stink like stale smoke anymore. And think of the money you will save!

[hubbertspeak7777777]

I smoked 3 packs a day for 2 years. Now I'm down to 1/2 to one pack a day (2 packs a day on weekends when I'm at the bar). I didn't cut down for health reasons, though. I did it because it was getting to be too expensive. If I were rich I'd still be a chain-smoker. It's one of the few joys in my life... I think it's better than sex. As for dying young, I could care less. Old age is not something to strive for. Due to peak oil, most of us probably won't reach old age even if we tried.

[hubbertspeak7777777]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kingcoal', 'I') smoked for years and quit. The thing is that smoking is an oral fixation and you'll probably gain weight after quiting. I recommend hooking up with a girl who is also kicking the habit and engaging in lovemaking when either of you gets cravings.

[Mack12345]

4 days and counting , cold turkey .
Just wanted to thank those of you that have shown me support both in the thred and by message .
It is very hard but im still going so far .

[stonecypher]

This thread isn't intended to open up the no-win debate between smokers and non-smokers.

If you're a smoker and your loved ones wanted you to quit for their sake as part of your preparations and planning for the future (not to mention the cost savings so you could buy more Spam) what would you be willing to do to break the habit once and for all?

Here's a desperate smoker who's trying a novel approach:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,523 ... latestnews

[vision-master]

You need to change your subject to cigarette smokers.

[patience]

I don't plan to quit. I started growing my own to save the outrageous amounts of money involved. No chemicals that way, either.

Sorry, I'm hopelessly addicted. And it is one bad habit that the govt will have a tough time taking away from me.

I'm betting that British guy is smoking again before long, and won't be a happy camper, either.

[yeahbut]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('patience', 'I') don't plan to quit. I started growing my own to save the outrageous amounts of money involved. No chemicals that way, either.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('patience', 'I') don't plan to quit. I started growing my own to save the outrageous amounts of money involved. No chemicals that way, either.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yeahbut', '
')So what's your home-grown smoke like? I've always thought I'd like to grow tobacco but it's illegal here in NZ, weirdly enough. No worries buying the taxed product tho...

[RonMN]

Once the first link in the chain is forged...it binds us all irrevocably!

You may wish to reconsider your hatred of tobacco!!!
It could be your undoing.

[patience]

The homegrown stuff is impossibly harsh, unless you go through a curing process, involving at least a couple weeks at 120 to 140 degrees F. and near 100% humidity. This finishes chemeical changes to the leaves to make them milder and much less obnoxious. Some people are using an old refrigerator heated with a couple light bulbs and add a humidifier. Add a bit of flavoring if you like, sprayed on, dissolved in water, and let dry to just flexible leaves. Press a stack of leaves into a cake and hand shred with a SHARP knife. All done. Not bad, either, and has a lot less bad effects i'm told. I smoked homegrown a long time ago in a pipe, and loved it. If cigarette papers get hard to come by, I'll make a cob pipe! No outrageous taxes for me, thank you very much.

[yeahbut]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'D')ouble check on that. If NZ is like the US at all, many things which are known to be "illegal to grow" are only illegal to grow if you grow them commercially, or if you grow them for a specific illegal purpose. Tobacco is a decorative plant which can be used as an insect repellant.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('patience', 'I') don't plan to quit. I started growing my own to save the outrageous amounts of money involved. No chemicals that way, either.

[SpringCreekFarm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('patience', 'T')he homegrown stuff is impossibly harsh, unless you go through a curing process, involving at least a couple weeks at 120 to 140 degrees F. and near 100% humidity. This finishes chemeical changes to the leaves to make them milder and much less obnoxious. Some people are using an old refrigerator heated with a couple light bulbs and add a humidifier. Add a bit of flavoring if you like, sprayed on, dissolved in water, and let dry to just flexible leaves. Press a stack of leaves into a cake and hand shred with a SHARP knife. All done. Not bad, either, and has a lot less bad effects i'm told. I smoked homegrown a long time ago in a pipe, and loved it. If cigarette papers get hard to come by, I'll make a cob pipe! No outrageous taxes for me, thank you very much.

[patience]

Here's a link for those interested. "Growing tobacco in the back forty", and has discussions on curing there.

http://www.electricfreeze.com/art/tobacco/harvest.htm

[Pops]

I'm pretty good at quitting, just not so good at not smoking. Interesting you ask though, I've been quit for two months yesterday. Here are some things to try:

Since you gotta want to quit. make sure you really do, otherwise don't waste your time.

If you really want to quit, take as much time off of work and away from family stress as you can manage - a couple weeks could make the difference. if it isn't worth the trouble or sacrifice of your vacation you don't want it.

Quit cold and hide out with your favorite crutch (choco/magazines/movies/etc) for 3-5 days to get over the physical effects.

Give yourself another week with as little stress as possible and start exercising and working your way back into life a little at a time.


But all that is just quitting, not smoking is the hard part. As it turns out I like to drink and I've proven to myself over and over that if I drink I'll eventually chippie a smoke and if I chippie once, sooner or later I'll start up again. So I'm permanently on the wagon - from at least a 12er of cheap beer a day - every day.

Oh and just to round out my friggin pristine lifestyle, I've also given up on sugar. The doc said it was the stress of going cold turkey on smokes and booze that kicked my latent/unknown diabetes into overdrive, knocked off about 25#s in a couple weeks and put me in ICU in a near coma.

The only thing I'm hooked on now is insulin!