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Re: HDTV converter boxes have cameras + microphones (video)

Unread postby Jotapay » Sat 21 Feb 2009, 02:37:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'I')'VE BEEN HAD. :oops:

I forgive you and I still like you.


Thank you. :) But I got taken for a ride. It is what it is and I want to be honest about it.
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Re: HDTV converter boxes have cameras + microphones (video)

Unread postby Hermes » Sat 21 Feb 2009, 10:20:10

I respect that you admit you've been had. I judge that most people in these forums, once it becomes clear that they've made a mistake, lash out at everyone else in the thread and go stomping off elsewhere. I'm glad you didn't.
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Re: HDTV converter boxes have cameras + microphones (video)

Unread postby cow6565 » Tue 24 Feb 2009, 04:58:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jakeemon', 'Y')ou guys are missing the big picture, these units are receivers NOT transmitters. Even if they were installing cameras and mics, how do they get that information back to the facist dictators? It is relatively easy to pick up a signal using basic electronics, but a whole nuther ball game to transmit.

1) Where are they transmitting to? A satellite? Don't think so!! Land based receiver? Maybe but the range would be very limited going by the size of the box.

2) Imagine the tetrabytes of information they would receive from each box, and how do they screen it all for useful information? All the would get out of mine is me scracthing my balls every twenty mins.
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Come on guys I love a good conspiracy theory but this one sucks. :lol:
vious.
In the first moedels they install the camera and mike. the next models will have the wiring, and later models will have the digital to RF converters and be able to transmit, and the final models will have blue tooth so they can send the picture through your cell phone and you will pay the dime for the pictures being sent



Isnt that make saense?

parts slowlyninstalled, nothing works until finally when al the parts are there, then it finally all suddenly works and we are being spied on!

See, they got this idea from evolution, which states fish grew many different appendiges over time and changed lungs and gills and kin type and then, when all the pieces were there to survive out of the water, the first fish walked on land.

Hey, you believe d the evolution lie, why not this one?

have a nice hypnosis.
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Wiretap/AIPAC/Gonzales/NSA/Pelosi/Espionage

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Texas Senate Endorses Freeway Spy Cameras

Unread postby mattduke » Sun 31 May 2009, 10:00:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Texas state Senate voted Monday to give federal, state and local authorities the ability to track and identify every passing vehicle on state highways. The provision calling for "automatic license plate identification cameras" was slipped into the Senate version of the must-pass Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) reauthorization bill.

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Re: Texas Senate Endorses Freeway Spy Cameras

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Sun 31 May 2009, 11:31:55

I'll have to add that to my list of reasons not to ever go to Texas.
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Re: Texas Senate Endorses Freeway Spy Cameras

Unread postby mos6507 » Sun 31 May 2009, 12:28:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'I')'ll have to add that to my list of reasons not to ever go to Texas.


But aren't they seceding? Isn't that reason enough to jump on board?
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Re: Texas Senate Endorses Freeway Spy Cameras

Unread postby cbxer55 » Sun 31 May 2009, 12:32:38

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Re: Texas Senate Endorses Freeway Spy Cameras

Unread postby Jotapay » Sun 31 May 2009, 12:53:42

I obviously don't approve of the Big Brother cameras, but I cannot wholeheartedly recommend enough the importance of staying away from Texas. It is a primitive culture where people still ride horses to work, endorse human-animal sex, and child sacrifice occurs before football games. Bathing is frowned upon where temps are 100+ on humid days ("You think you're better than me?"). Women drink, gossip and play cards all day, leaving their children to play in the pasture alongside the animals, and their men unfed. The Church conducts regular home inspections for un-Churchy material and drags offenders before the Inquisition for castration. There are regular gun battles in the street over the smallest of personal offenses.

Spread the word. Stop people from moving here, for the love of god. It defies logic why people are coming here. It's unlivable and much worse than you can imagine. Seriously, Californians, Northeasterners, Coloradians, turn back.
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Re: Texas Senate Endorses Freeway Spy Cameras

Unread postby Windmills » Sun 31 May 2009, 13:03:01

I was fine with the photo radar cameras--they really keep the jerks in line around here. But tracking everything? Wow. I don't know if I have a need to feel that "safe."

Oh, well. How long are freeways going to last, anyway?
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Re: Texas Senate Endorses Freeway Spy Cameras

Unread postby Ludi » Sun 31 May 2009, 13:07:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Texas state Senate voted Monday to give federal, state and local authorities the ability to track and identify every passing vehicle on state highways. The provision calling for "automatic license plate identification cameras" was slipped into the Senate version of the must-pass Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) reauthorization bill.

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Looks like a great opportunity for some target practice.
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Re: Texas Senate Endorses Freeway Spy Cameras

Unread postby Jotapay » Sun 31 May 2009, 13:13:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'L')ooks like a great opportunity for some target practice.


Buckshot and scoped hunting rifles all the way.
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The Secret State's Surveillance Machine

Unread postby pablonite » Tue 26 Jan 2010, 03:07:31

Something has happened to the meaning of anonymous on the internet, it has completely disappeared. Having worked in the back orifice of a large ISP for a few years early in the 21st century we would only acknowledge written requests for info on a subscriber and it was granted only in the cases of child porn, suicide threats, death threats and this sort of thing. Never for copyright violations since we would just disable hosting whatever material was in question.Before I left we were all signing non-disclosure agreements and I knew assorted monitoring and traffic management equipment was being installed into the hub sites with strange and sometimes unexplainable service issues arising soon after. During this period of upgrading they were sticking cameras into our ceiling and all sorts of monitoring programs on the workstations...I left and found a more enjoyable place to work. I told my manager straight out the place was creeping me out but it was about my 5th in 3 years so I didn't even know her, she didn't care.

I guess they just a built a direct portal into the internet and charge the .gov on a per click basis according to this article which doesn't really suprise me in the least. It might you though?

Following the Money Trail
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16497

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.')..Unsurprisingly, the threshold for obtaining personal records is exceedingly low and "very few of these methods require an intercept order."

All the government need do to obtain a pen register or trap and trace order, which examine to/from/subject lines of email messages, URLs of viewed web pages, search terms, telephone numbers dialed and the like, is to unilaterally declare that information obtained via this backdoor route is "relevant" to an ongoing criminal or counterterrorist investigation.

In other words, give us everything we want and move along!

...No small matter, considering that should a court ever find avaricious telecoms and ISPs liable for violating the rights of their customers, fines could mount into the billions.

...Sprint Nextel provided law enforcement agencies with its customers' (GPS) location information over 8 million times between September 2008 and October 2009.

...According to Cryptome, "The information in the document which counters Yahoo's customer privacy policy suggests a clearing of the air is in order to assure customer reliance on Yahoo's published promises of trust.

Well, just how much does Yahoo charge for their dubious shenanigans with the secret state? Wired reports: "According to this list, Yahoo charges the government about $30 to $40 for the contents, including e-mail, of a subscriber's account. It charges $40 to $80 for the contents of a Yahoo group."
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Google teams up with the NSA to keep America safe...

Unread postby pablonite » Thu 04 Feb 2010, 13:25:20

From what I understand it was a social engineering attack on google employee email accounts. Why would the NSA need to openly admit working with google on something like this? When most of what they do with tax payers money is secret, why come out in the open with this? Why not just collaborate with google in secret?

It looks like building a consensus for what has already happened.

Google to enlist NSA to help it ward off cyberattacks
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 57_pf.html
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he world's largest Internet search company and the world's most powerful electronic surveillance organization are teaming up in the name of cybersecurity.

Under an agreement that is still being finalized, the National Security Agency would help Google analyze a major corporate espionage attack that the firm said originated in China and targeted its computer networks, according to cybersecurity experts familiar with the matter. The objective is to better defend Google -- and its users -- from future attack.


Spying on Americans: A Multibillion Bonanza for the Telecoms
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17307
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o egregious had these practices become that "based on nothing more than e-mail messages or scribbled requests on Post-it notes, the phone employees turned over customer calling records" to the FBI, The New York Times reported.

And when questions about these dodgy practices were raised internally, top FBI managers "up to the assistant director level" approved CAU's blatantly illegal methodology and responded by "crafting a 'blanket' national security letter to authorize all past searches that had not been covered by open cases," The Washington Post disclosed.

"On some occasions" according to the Times, "the phone employees allowed the F.B.I. to upload call records to government databases. On others, they allowed agents to view records on their computer screens, a practice that became known as 'sneak peeks'."

"But in a surprise buried at the end of the 289-page report" Wired disclosed, "the inspector general also reveals that the Obama administration issued a secret rule almost two weeks ago saying it was legal for the FBI to have skirted federal privacy protections."

Investigative journalist Ryan Singel revealed that the "Obama administration retroactively legalized the entire fiasco through a secret ruling from the Office of Legal Counsel nearly two weeks ago."
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Re: Google teams up with the NSA to keep America safe...

Unread postby Jotapay » Thu 04 Feb 2010, 13:37:20

And people wonder why some of us don't have a Facebook, MySpace account.....
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Re: Google teams up with the NSA to keep America safe...

Unread postby pablonite » Thu 04 Feb 2010, 17:14:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'A')nd people wonder why some of us don't have a Facebook, MySpace account.....

The first place a cop will look I suppose these days. Or maybe it's even easier, drudge had this on today...

Police want backdoor to Web users' private data
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nyone with an e-mail account likely knows that police can peek inside it if they have a paper search warrant.

But cybercrime investigators are frustrated by the speed of traditional methods of faxing, mailing, or e-mailing companies these documents. They're pushing for the creation of a national Web interface linking police computers with those of Internet and e-mail providers so requests can be sent and received electronically...

This is clearly disinformation, these web portals have already been built and are now used on a regular basis. The big ISP simply charge on a a per click basis and if you look at the numbers publicly admitted, there are huge dollars being made in the back orifice of the war on terror. About $50 for a complete dump of a Yahoo user account for example.
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Re: Google teams up with the NSA to keep America safe...

Unread postby Mower » Thu 04 Feb 2010, 20:31:27

The NSA has been up to no good for years, that agency is pure evil now. Out of control, violating rights. It needs to be shut down.
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Napolitano: Total Surveillance Of Americans

Unread postby mattduke » Sun 20 Jun 2010, 17:03:54

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')ighting homegrown terrorism by monitoring Internet communications is a civil liberties trade-off the U.S. government must make to beef up national security, the nation's homeland security chief said Friday.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06 ... -+Politics)
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Re: Napolitano: Total Surveillance Of Americans

Unread postby Sixstrings » Sun 20 Jun 2010, 18:33:10

Well that's nothing new -- it's always been the case that of course we can have more "security" if we don't have civil liberties. But the tradeoff for having "maximum security" is living in tyranny.
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Re: Napolitano: Total Surveillance Of Americans

Unread postby rangerone314 » Tue 22 Jun 2010, 18:34:05

I wonder if Napolitano is afraid that terrorists will kill Americans by polluting the water supply and poisoning the oceans.

Oops... the Big corporations already beat them to that.
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