[rangerone314]

What does this graph of the S&P500 mean to you?

sp500.GIF

Perhaps that 401K plans are a great idea, LOL!

[AirlinePilot]

How about we let that play out a bit further? My guess right now is that right side goes a whole lot lower in the near term.

This time it really is different.

Probably a lot more than just a lost decade when all this is said and done. More like a lost generation.

[AAA]

This graph proves to me a disciplined investing strategy will be very profitable.

People doubled their money in the S&P 500 in less than 4 years (1996-2000).

Then almost doubled their money AGAIN from 2003-2008.

If someone is too greedy to take some profits after 100% return twice in 10 years then they deserve to loss some.

[joewp]

Technical analysis would call that a double top with the next low lower than the previous low, a very bearish signal. While taking investment advice from "some guy on the Internet" (sorry for stealing that, pup55!) isn't a great idea, I'd think you'd just be a fool to put your money in an S&P tracking fund, considering that the next low will probably be much lower than 700.

Just my opinion for what it's worth.

[odegaard]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', 'T')echnical analysis would call that a double top with the next low lower than the previous low, a very bearish signal. While taking investment advice from "some guy on the Internet" (sorry for stealing that, pup55!) isn't a great idea, I'd think you'd just be a fool to put your money in an S&P tracking fund, considering that the next low will probably be much lower than 700.

Just my opinion for what it's worth.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AAA', 'T')his graph proves to me a disciplined investing strategy will be very profitable.

People doubled their money in the S&P 500 in less than 4 years (1996-2000).

Then almost doubled their money AGAIN from 2003-2008.

If someone is too greedy to take some profits after 100% return twice in 10 years then they deserve to loss some.

[AAA]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('odegaard', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', 'T')echnical analysis would call that a double top with the next low lower than the previous low, a very bearish signal. While taking investment advice from "some guy on the Internet" (sorry for stealing that, pup55!) isn't a great idea, I'd think you'd just be a fool to put your money in an S&P tracking fund, considering that the next low will probably be much lower than 700.

Just my opinion for what it's worth.

[odegaard]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AAA', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('odegaard', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', 'T')echnical analysis would call that a double top with the next low lower than the previous low, a very bearish signal. While taking investment advice from "some guy on the Internet" (sorry for stealing that, pup55!) isn't a great idea, I'd think you'd just be a fool to put your money in an S&P tracking fund, considering that the next low will probably be much lower than 700.

Just my opinion for what it's worth.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AAA', 'T')his graph proves to me a disciplined investing strategy will be very profitable.

People doubled their money in the S&P 500 in less than 4 years (1996-2000).

Then almost doubled their money AGAIN from 2003-2008.

If someone is too greedy to take some profits after 100% return twice in 10 years then they deserve to loss some.

[AAA]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('odegaard', '
')
Stock Markets Current News III (Take Two) -> page 48
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('odegaard', 'I')s anyone else shorting the stock market or is it just me?
Don't be shy, put your hands up if you are.
I am currently holding a short position Dow Jones.

[odegaard]

to: AAA
*getting serious now*

Why do you believe the Dow can't drop down to 4,000 or the S&P hitting 400?
This is the worst financial crisis since the great depression and that is NO exaggeration.

[AAA]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('odegaard', 't')o: AAA
*getting serious now*

Why do you believe the Dow can't drop down to 4,000 or the S&P hitting 400?
This is the worst financial crisis since the great depression and that is NO exaggeration.

[AAA]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'J')ust when Manifa, deep water, etc. come on line this year and next, and the barrel price drops to $10---all the other giant fields on the planet will have begun their precipitous decline.

At that point petroleum goes to $100, $200, $500 and beyond, and the stock market sinks to ZILTCH, NADA, NEGATIVITY, ZERO.

[AAA]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'r')eferences?

[shortonoil]

AAA said:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') believe we will peak but it could be further down the road then you think.

[patience]

shortonoil,

I know you base ananlysis on EROEI. I wonder what the factor could be for decreasing utility value for energy over the last 100 years? When fossil fuels were first utilized, they were applied to the most important task first--pumping water out of coal mines with James Watt's steam engines, then later to agriculture and grinding grain, then factory tasks. For some time now, our increased energy usage has gone to luxuries--air conditioning, leisure transportation, and electronic toys are examples I'm thinking of. Much less gain per calorie of energy used, compared to grinding flour, or running a washing machine.

As energy becomes more dear for everyone, I expect to see the original trend reverse itself, at least among us poor people. My life would be better if I use what little energy I can afford to do the most labor intensive stuff and give up the luxuries. (I realize many people think air conditioning is a necessity, but it is not for me.) My priorities run to things like home heating, refrigeration/food freezer, lights, radio, and phone, which I can provide with alternative sources. The pinch will come when gasoline is too pricey to use much, whereupon I will cut transportation to the BONE, and use the gas to plow the garden, grind our flour, and run my workshop.

I can foresee choices of this sort facing the masses, as unemployment rises, and the social safety nets develope large holes. I expect this to become the new "normal", not just for a 10 year slump, but for generations to come, based on the available energy.

[joewp]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AAA', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('odegaard', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', 'T')echnical analysis would call that a double top with the next low lower than the previous low, a very bearish signal. While taking investment advice from "some guy on the Internet" (sorry for stealing that, pup55!) isn't a great idea, I'd think you'd just be a fool to put your money in an S&P tracking fund, considering that the next low will probably be much lower than 700.

Just my opinion for what it's worth.