[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', 'S')omeone commits a crime and takes off through the neighborhood putting my family and everyone else at risk.

[ColossalContrarian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'H')ow is he putting anyone at risk simply by fleeing? You seem to be saying "street justice" is sufficient and we shouldn't bother with the rule of law. The punishment should be in excess of the crime, that is, the "perp" should be actually nearly killed, instead of merely at risk of being nearly killed.

[dunewalker]

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[gnm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', 'S')omeone commits a crime and takes off through the neighborhood putting my family and everyone else at risk.

[ColossalContrarian]

Lame attempt at censure dunewalker$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'H')ow is he putting anyone at risk simply by fleeing?You seem to be saying "street justice" is sufficient and we shouldn't bother with the rule of law. The punishment should be in excess of the crime, that is, the "perp" should be actually nearly killed, instead of merely at risk of being nearly killed.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'Y')ou have no idea what you're talking about. How many times have you ran up on a fleeing violent felon intending to arrest him? Have you ever had him fake a surrender only to have him fight back with lethal force? Ever pried a knife out of a aggravated felons struggling hands while trying to arrest him? Ever had a firearm suddenly aimed at you? How many times have you been shot at during an arrest of someone who has nearly killed many innocent civilians? I applaud that cop for his heroism and impressive restraint.

[eastbay]

Yes, definitely not the ACLU's side.

And you'll be calling someone just like me when the storm begins. And we may not respond because it might not be allowed. This is really going to be messy partially because law enforcement may be prevented from performing. Whole sections of cities may be abandoned, much like in Paris and a few other major cities.

People will more and more be called upon to rely upon themselves when facing street violence because cops will be too afraid to respond.


I see this controversy as a perfect demonstration of the division forming in our common approach to civil authority as we begin our final descent. On one side we find the ACLU and their supporters. They want law enforcement to be social workers. If you don't support this you will be called mean names. On the other side we find those who see what's coming and fear the consequences of eroding civil authority in this time of our peak oil driven decay in social cohesion.

I'm hoping for the best, but suspect we'll have the worst.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'Y')es, definitely not the ACLU's side. And you'll be calling someone just like me when the storm begins. And we may not respond because it might not be allowed. This is really going to be messy partially because law enforcement may be prevented from performing. Whole sections of cities may be abandoned, much like in Paris and a few other major cities.
People will more and more be called upon to rely upon themselves when facing street violence because cops will be too afraid to respond.
I see this controversy as a perfect demonstration of the division forming in our common approach to civil authority as we begin our final descent. On one side we find the ACLU and their supporters. They want law enforcement to be social workers. If you don't support this you will be called mean names. On the other side we find those who see what's coming and fear the consequences of eroding civil authority in this time of our peak oil driven decay in social cohesion. I'm hoping for the best, but suspect we'll have the worst.

[rangerone314]

Its stupid to protest cops being violent after chasing down a criminal. Cops are supposed to be capable of violence because their primary societal purpose through out the world is to suppress dissent and protect the PTB.

We should be glad he was at least chasing after a gang member, as opposed to beating protestors or sitting by the road eating a donut with a radar gun.

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'W')hen TSHTF there will be no police. I am well armed and dangerous.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'A') wise choice VM. Most people do not select that option. They choose to rely on 911. But for those who do choose your option, godspeed and let's hope it'll still be allowed.

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'T')hat's what I'm afraid of - being disarmed by TPB.

[rangerone314]

Hide your arms... OOPS they were stolen, LOL!

In the future, free speech will be a felony.

from wiki:
The Peter Principle is the principle that "In a Hierarchy Every Employee Tends to Rise to His Level of Incompetence."

The Allyn Principle is the principle that:
"Every Person is an @$$h013 and How Big of an @$$h013 they are depends on how high in power they have risen."

[eastbay]

http://news.aol.com/article/chase-head-kick/481865

This AOL reader survey, or poll, if you wish, reveals around half of respondents agree that the officer did NOT use excessive force. Half do and half don't. A split. Interesting.

[jupiters_release]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'Y')ou have no idea what you're talking about. How many times have you ran up on a fleeing violent felon intending to arrest him? Have you ever had him fake a surrender only to have him fight back with lethal force? Ever pried a knife out of a aggravated felons struggling hands while trying to arrest him? Ever had a firearm suddenly aimed at you? How many times have you been shot at during an arrest of someone who has nearly killed many innocent civilians?

[jupiters_release]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'h')ttp://news.aol.com/article/chase-head-kick/481865

This AOL reader survey, or poll, if you wish, reveals around half of respondents agree that the officer did NOT use excessive force. Half do and half don't. A split. Interesting.

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', 'T')here's no clarity of perception with this level of fear. The guy was empty-handed and spread eagle on the ground, clearly in no position to fight. If a cop still doesn't feel safe to cuff him then he could have waited ten seconds for back-up to arrive then does so.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', 'A')pparently you didn't see the part where he drove on the sidewalk or was driving on the wrong side of the road and nearly had a head-on with an innocent bystanders?

[jupiters_release]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'H')ave you ever been present when someone suddenly reaches for a hidden weapon? It occurs in a split second and it sucks. Someone often dies. This was exactly the scenario under which such a sudden move was likely to occur.

[Blueberry]

The cop was completely alone in a backyard with a suspect that had been out of control.

That's a dangerous situation.

It looked to me like he was making sure the guy would not trick/attack him or get out hand when the cop went to cuff him (which is a vulnerable time).

The cop was protecting himself, for sure.

Was it abuse? Maybe. Cops learn to be very aware that situations that look safe can change immediately -- and this guy had been acting very erratic.

Add testosterone, adrenalin...