[jasonraymondson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', 'D')on't call a man's bluff if you only watch MSNBC, you might just lose your poker hand

http://www.redistributingknowledge.blogspot.com/ http://www.kirotv.com/video/18727718/index.html
http://youdontknowstimulus.com

[Maddog78]

http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts/recession.budget.protest.2.951551.html



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')IGHTING BACK: Thousands Rally At City Hall
Taxpayers Tired Of Recession & Furious With Budget Cuts Take Frustration To Streets Of Manhattan
Organizers Say 50,000 On Hand For 'Rally For New York' Reporting
Hazel Sanchez NEW YORK (CBS) ―

A massive protest was held outside City Hall in Manhattan on Thursday afternoon, where it seems people have just about had it with the recession.

Anxiety has turned into frustration, and that frustration has boiled over at City Hall where tens of thousands of people took to the streets to vent to city and state officials.

Organizers estimate that 50,000 people lined Broadway with a message to Gov. David Paterson that cuts are not the answer to fixing New York's budget problems.

The protesters were made up of a widespread coalition of labor unions, community groups, and even families uniting to have their voices heard.

Dubbing it a "Rally for New York," they rallied against proposed state and city budget cuts to public services, education, health care, along with other programs that impact families and the economy in New York.

"I have not lost the feeling for good education. You can't cut the budget the way it is and still have the quality we're aiming for there's no question about that. So we're fighting for the children first, and then the teachers and the workers after that, and for the city of course," protestor George Altomare, a retired teacher, told CBS 2 HD.

The massive group was calling for fair share tax reform, and increasing the income tax of New Yorkers earning $250,000 or more, generating $6 billion and they hope to prevent the cuts.

It was a loud and spirited crowd, one that hoped Paterson heard the cries for help.

"What Paterson has in mind to do is wrong," protester Ruth Cardona said. "We have people that are working for years at these hospitals and nursing homes and they need to stay working. The cutback is putting people out of jobs, no health care, and then also the education part of it is wrong and he needs to revise what he is doing and do what's supposed to be right for the people."

Community leaders and activists concluded their rally around 6:15 p.m.

Motorists were urged to avoid lower Manhattan near City Hall, where traffic was gridlocked because of the rally. The inbound Brooklyn Bridge was jammed off Flatbush Avenue all the way across to Manhattan. Park Road was jammed, Broadway was completely closed from Canal all the way down to City Hall. The Manhattan Bridge was also backed up because of the rally.

[ColossalContrarian]

eventually anyway...

this might kick off something nasty soon, no pun intended-> http://www.nbclosangeles.com/traffic_autos/transit/CHP-Pursues-Pickup-in-Diamond-Bar-Area-.html

[ColossalContrarian]

At first thought I believe the criminal deserves to get kicked in the head but I’m wondering what would happen if this became the norm.

Criminals won’t peacefully give up anymore. If they know they’re about to get their @ss beat how willing will they be to put their hands up rather than reach for a weapon?

[dunewalker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', 'C')riminals won’t peacefully give up anymore. If they know they’re about to get their @ss beat how willing will they be to put their hands up rather than reach for a weapon?

[mefistofeles]

There is no doubt that the cops engaged in exessive use of force, the suspect was clearly complying with the officiers when he was on the ground.

Force in law enforcement should be used only on an as needed basis.

I don't know what that guy's crime was but I can't help wonder if that cop just cost the city a good chunk of change.

[Schmuto]

The thing that really made the video was the gay left handed high five at the very end.

Must be tough to be a cop who does his job well and treats people decently, because you're going to get lumped in with this sack of crap who takes a cheap shot just to get off.

[ColossalContrarian]

I can't get over how many lives this guy put at risk driving like a maniac through the city.

A kick in the face for some entertainment pays for the tax dollars we'll be spending on this guy in prison.

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', 'I') can't get over how many lives this guy put at risk driving like a maniac through the city.

A kick in the face for some entertainment pays for the tax dollars we'll be spending on this guy in prison.

[Schmuto]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', 'I') can't get over how many lives this guy put at risk driving like a maniac through the city. A kick in the face for some entertainment pays for the tax dollars we'll be spending on this guy in prison.

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schmuto', 'Y')ou surprised me on this one, EB. If we are going to let the authorities abuse a person because of what they did prior to the arrest, regardless of their complete prostration during the arrest, then Rodney King got what he deserved and we're all going to be subject to the same treatment at some point.

[jupiters_release]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '
')
Looks like the guy was uninjured and asked for worse. King asked for it and he too healed after a week or two. My sympathies and biases are ALWAYS with the cops unless it's proven conclusively that they illegally maim or kill someone while performing their duties. A quick boot to the face isn't 'maiming'. It probably didn't even leave a mark.

On the other hand, he probably should have checked his six for camera's and witnesses. That wasn't very smart.

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', 'A') centered kick to the face, especially one lying on the ground, can easily break a person's neck. And you're cool with excessive force if it's not lethal? I'm with Schmuto on this, didn't think you were so demoralized EB.

[jupiters_release]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'I') also said 'maimed', which home boy clearly was not. Anyway, the single kick wasn't hard at all and was more of an 'attention-getter'. And besides, if you're unhappy with that little kick you haven't seen anything yet. Wait 'til you see what's coming down the pike!! One day you will wish for hundreds of thousands of more heroic cops like him. And your wish will NOT come true.

[alpha480v]

Cop has anger management issues. Should be fired. Most definitely excessive force. The suspect was down and complying. Looks like the city will be paying out some lawsuit money soon.

[uNkNowN ElEmEnt]

Oh come on! Cops are hired based on their propensity for violence. It doesn't make any sense to hire guys who will give the beat down on some perp then fine, suspend or fire them for the very thing they werre hired for in the first place.

Its you who doesn't see the reality of the motives behind the whole concept of having an armed police force. You really think they are there to serve and protect, but did you stop to ask who they are charged with serving and protecting? Seriously. The cop did just what they want and train him to do.

You don't put a guard dog in a store then expect him not to do what you've trained him for. Its doesn't equate.

[Ayoob]

i don't know if you can, but can you get an owner for ons, that's o-n-s, junior market, the address is 1934 east aneheim, all the windows are busted out, and it's like a free-for-all in here and uh the owner shouldat least come down here and see if he can secure his business, if he wants to...

april 26th, 1992, there was a riot on the streets, tell me where were you? you were sittin' home watchin' your tv, while i was paticipatin' in some anarchy.

first spot we hit it was my liqour store. i finally got all that alcohol i can't afford. with red lights flashin' time to retire, and then we turned that liquor store into a structure fire.

next stop we hit it was the music shop, it only took one brick to make that window drop. finally we got our own p.a. where do you think i got this guitar that you're hearing today? hey!

(call fire, respond mobil station. alamidos in anaheim, its uhh flamin up good.

10-4 alamidos in anaheim)

never doin no time

when we returned to the pad to unload everything, it dawned on me that i need new home furnishings. so once again we filled the van until it was full, since that day my livin' room's been more comfortable.

cause everybody in the hood has had it up to here,
it's getting harder and harder and harder each and every year.

some kids went in a store with thier mother,
i saw her when she came out she was gettin some pampers.

they said it was for the black man, they said it was for the mexican,
and not for the white man.

but if you look at the streets it wasn't about rodney king,
it's bout this fucked up situation and these fucked up police.
it's about coming up and staying on top
and screamin' 187 on a mother fuckin' cop.
it's not written on the paper it's on the wall.
national guard??! smoke from all around,

bo! bo! bo!

(units, units be advised there is an attempt 211 to arrest now at 938 temple, 938 temple... 30 subjects with bags.. tryin to get inside the cb's house)

(as long as i'm alive, i'mma live illegal)

let it burn, wanna let it burn,
wanna let it burn, wanna wanna let it burn

(i'm feelin' sad and blue)

riots on the streets of miami,
oh, riots on the streets of chicago,
oh, on the streets of long beach,
mmm, and san francisco (boise idaho),
riots on the streets of kansas city
(salt lake, hunntington beach, ca),
tuscalusa alabama (arcada compton michigan),
cleveland ohio,
fountain valley (texas, barstow - let's do this every year),
paramount, victorville (twice a year),
eugene or, eureka ca (let it burn, let it burn),
hesperia (oh, ya let it burn, wont'cha wont'cha let it burn),
santa barbara, nevada, (let it burn)
phoenix arizona,
san diego, lakeland florida, (let it burn)
fuckin... 29 palms (wontcha let it burn)

any units assist 334 willow,
structure fire, and numerous subjects looting

10-15 to get rid of this looter..

10-4

[Micki]

OK, so now the boot kick in the face is acceptable and from what I hear appropriate.
I better go and dust off my old copy of 1984 and see what else I can expect to become the norm.
Given that even presidents accept torture, it seems only reasonable that it is implemented also for suspicion of crimes besides terrorism. Maybe murder, rape, armed robbery, tax evasion, thought crime...

Just remember if Law doesn't take moral high ground, it is just tyrrany and ever increasing levels of force will be required as people lose respect for law enforcement that is no longer working for them.

[pup55]

LA has been in a low level riot for decades.

Too big to fail, too expensive to fix, the best they can do is keep it contained, normally. Once in awhile it squirts out of control, and they sit on it and re-contain it.

Someday they will not be able to contain it.

At one point it was paradise.

[ColossalContrarian]

This is my problem with the whole deal.

Someone commits a crime and takes off through the neighborhood putting my family and everyone else at risk. The perp gets cornered and throws his hands in the air “well you got me” and somehow as a society were supposed to accept that and happily pay for this bozo to have three square meals a day and a place to sleep in prison. Sorry, that doesn’t work for me. You come through my neighborhood and nearly kill multiple people and I’d rather see you in the hospital fighting for your life than lounging around in D.O.C.

Where do people find it in them to simply neglect the danger this individual put everyone else in yet attack the police for showing this dumbsh!t street justice? What do everyday Joe Samaritans have to worry about? They’re safe knowing anyone who disrespects their laws in their neighborhood gets some good ol’ street justice right to the face!

Now it’s like this guy won the lottery and will get a huge pay day for basically taking a sh!t on the people in this community. How depressing!