[jasonraymondson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('3aidlillahi', 'I') actually just remembered that we don't use a "per hour" tuition rate. They thought about switching to one but there was quite a backlash. If you take between 12 and 17 hours, then you pay a flat rate of about $1900. If you take less, then it's per hour (although I think this is practically impossible now) and if you take more, then it's per hour only on the extra hours.

So we're around $110 to $160 per hour. $300 - $600 per course, depending on how many you take and how many hours. But we pay pretty high income and sales taxes in this state - some of the highest in the country.

All of this is In-state students. Out-of-staters pay about five times as much.

[Quinny]

I find it amazing how few lectures undegraduates tend to have to attend nowadays.

When I started at University we were attending lectures / labs 30+ hours per week, admittedly that was an engineering degree, but maths and science were still over 20 hours, even literature had around 10 hours per week in the first year.

My sons going to Uni this year to do Computer Science, his workload is going to be much less than that even at what are supposed to be difficult courses.

[3aidlillahi]

We're more efficient learners. :D

I think that our textbooks are more suited towards our learning so we can learn more from the textbook than maybe you were able to, thus reducing the amount of time that we needed to spend with a lecturer. I've seen older textbooks for the sciences and they are usually without diagrams, graphs, and examples. So you have to go to class in order to get that. With ours, we often even get solution sets to the examples to gain mastery as well as visual aids and interactive CD's or websites.

Or do you mean that you took 10 classes a semester? I looked at my father's transcript from Chicago and he took 3-4 a semester as a Chem major the first year.

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bodigami', '
')I paid 176 per hour for my undergrad

My graduate costs are 222 per hour

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('3aidlillahi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '$')1300 per hour here.

[ForlornHope]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bodigami', '.')..i just want to work in something i like; university is getting boring... most of the knowledge i have studied in this past years is self-taught; therefore i have no paper with fancy signatures and seals probing it.

[shortonsense]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ForlornHope', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bodigami', '.')..i just want to work in something i like; university is getting boring... most of the knowledge i have studied in this past years is self-taught; therefore i have no paper with fancy signatures and seals probing it.

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ForlornHope', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bodigami', '.')..i just want to work in something i like; university is getting boring... most of the knowledge i have studied in this past years is self-taught; therefore i have no paper with fancy signatures and seals probing it.

[jasonraymondson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bodigami', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ForlornHope', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bodigami', '.')..i just want to work in something i like; university is getting boring... most of the knowledge i have studied in this past years is self-taught; therefore i have no paper with fancy signatures and seals probing it.

[Jotapay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'W')ant to challenge me? I am at least published, are you?

[Jotapay]

I have science degree and can tell you that I would not trade it for a spotted hog. Even if I had to pay twice the price (price = $45K USD at Uni of Texas), it would still be a bargain. I got a Geoscience degree from the best-funded and ~top 5 overall geology program in the country. That is a freaking bargain by today's college costs.

Hard science and engineering degrees are never underrated.

If you are getting a fluff social science or liberal arts degree, I would acclimate myself to starving and a life of uselessness as soon as possible.

[Voice_du_More]

Amateurism is probably a more useful survival skill in a post peak world than professionalism, the latter being defined as narrowly focused expertise arising as part of the division of labor in a complex society. Being a good generalist is wise if you are trying to find a way to build a little piece of civilization in the middle of nowhere. Learn what you need for permaculture, but I think a solid hard science degree, with well chosen general ed will definitely come in handy.

[Some other time we can talk about the education system in America and why so many people can so easily get degrees that leave them without good job prospects.]

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bodigami', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ForlornHope', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bodigami', '.')..i just want to work in something i like; university is getting boring... most of the knowledge i have studied in this past years is self-taught; therefore i have no paper with fancy signatures and seals probing it.