[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pup55', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hy not invest in a small farm?

[mefistofeles]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o what do think GM bond holders are thinking? How about anyone else who is thinking of investing in an American business?? Under Lord Obama's rule here in the Peoples Republic of America................good advice may be to invest somewhere else. In our new socialist paradise only certain "politically correct" special interest groups rights are defended.

[AlexdeLarge]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'W')hy not invest in a small farm?

[efarmer]

When you are a free market investor and you own a bunch
of Chrysler or GM, you know you aren't sitting on prime
stuff and have known this for some time before all the
current dire circumstances arose.

So is your faith in the free market to value what you have
decided to put money into, is it in the government to
apply corporate socialism to you and make you a
happy free market investor with socialized loss protection,
or is it in the bankruptcy court process to put you in
the head of the line to hack at the corporate corpse?

My opinion is that many of these investors have been
crowing about free market rights and procedures and
hoping and praying for corporate socialism under conditions
where they could pocket the money and act like it
makes them sad to take government welfare.

[Tyler_JC]

One of the fundamental tenants of American society is the respect for the rule of law and the validity of legal contracts.

When government starts changing the rules halfway through the game and arbitrarily breaking contracts, it sets a dangerous precedent.

We are on the verge of losing one of our greatest assets, the legitimacy of our legal system.

Obama and his "Car Czar" are currently behaving like the government bureaucrats in Atlas Shrugged.

It is going to be more difficult for honest companies to issue bonds in the future because the government of today believes that it can dictate the terms of a pre-existing legal contract.

Who would ever want to loan money to Chrysler in the future knowing that this kind of crap can take place?

[efarmer]

I see your points, but like Bank of America having Clinton's former
Treasury Secretary on board until recently, Chrysler experienced
having Cerebrus buy most of Daimler out, and Cerebrus is ran
by Mr. Bush's former Treasury Secretary Hank Snow.

I think investors would be well served to not invest in the
companies run by former Treasury Secretaries even in
the environment where the government is bailing out
companies and they would seem to be an asset.

I am starting to get the sneaking suspicion that these
Treasury Secretaries are good with making job connections
and very bad with money.

I not only agree with you on future investment in these companies
Tyler_JC, as being dicey, I think the condition is retroactive for many
years as well. Why in the hell did Cerebrus put so much money
in a gut shot auto company? So the other hedge fund guys would
think it was safe to throw their money in and prop up the cadaver?
Was this a confidence game to attract hedge fund capital?

[Quinny]

Don't know what all the fuss is about - you lot never been involved with liquidators before. If the investors hope to get more than a few pence in the pound they are living in fantasy land. mmmmm.. then again they are probably w sorry bankers!

[AlexdeLarge]

Companies and investors will be leaving the States in droves looking more friendly, dependable and trustworthy climes.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124140022601982149.html

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Obama administration will roll out details Monday of what aides are calling a far-reaching crackdown on offshore tax avoidance, targeting many U.S.-based multinational corporations and wealthy individuals.

President Barack Obama will flesh out a proposal included in his February budget blueprint seeking to curb the practice of parking foreign earnings in offshore tax havens indefinitely. By some estimates, $700 billion or more in U.S. corporate earnings have accumulated in overseas accounts in recent years. The current U.S. rules for corporations carry enormous benefits for companies. Unlike most deferred taxes, those stemming from foreign earnings don't cut into a company's bottom line as long as they are considered "permanently reinvested" overseas.

The result can have a huge impact on a company's bottom line. The pharmaceutical and technology industries are particular beneficiaries.

[Tyler_JC]

So now we're trying to stop American companies from investing in other countries?

What's to stop them from becoming helicopter corporations?

Just relocate the HQ overseas and take the profits with them. Attacking corporate tax havens, without international support, is economic suicide.

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlexdeLarge', '(')...)
It is of no account to Obama that these tax breaks are legal. Ex Post Facto means nothing to a Man who thinks the Constitution does not apply to his rule. The actions of "The One" will assure that you, your children and their children will live in poverty................ And some of you will still praise his name. LOL

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'S')o now we're trying to stop American companies from investing in other countries? What's to stop them from becoming helicopter corporations? Just relocate the HQ overseas and take the profits with them. Attacking corporate tax havens, without international support, is economic suicide.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')usiness News | Mon Jan 9, 2017 | 4:22pm EST

Fiat Chrysler to add U.S. jobs as Trump puts spotlight on industry

By Bernie Woodall and David Shepardson | DETROIT

Fiat Chrysler Automobiles (FCHA.MI) (FCAU.N) said it will invest $1 billion to modernize two plants in the U.S. Midwest and create 2,000 jobs, and possibly move production of a Ram heavy-duty pickup truck to Michigan from Mexico.

FCA Chief Executive Sergio Marchionne said on Monday the decision to retool factories in Ohio and Michigan to build new Jeep sport utility vehicles, including a pickup truck, "was in the works and has been in the works for a long period of time."

But he also told reporters at the Detroit auto show that uncertainty over U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's trade and tax policies could lead auto makers to delay investments in Mexico.

"The reality is the Mexican automotive industry has now for a number of years been tooled-up to try and deal with the U.S. market. If the U.S. market were not to be there, the reasons for its existence are on the line," Marchionne said.

Trump has threatened to slap new taxes on imported vehicles and criticized automakers including Ford Motor Co (F.N), General Motors Co (GM.N) and Toyota Motor Corp (7203.T) for building vehicles in Mexico.

FCA's investment decisions were not related to Trump's recent attacks on the auto industry, according to people familiar with the company's moves. FCA had previously said it would expand truck and SUV production in the United States, though the $1 billion investment figure and creation of 2,000 jobs are new details.

A person familiar with the situation said Marchionne wanted to get out those details in case FCA encountered criticism from Trump. The person said FCA executives did not confer with Trump before making the decision.

FCA's announcement also highlighted the auto industry's keen interest in getting relief from tough fuel economy rules enacted by the outgoing Obama administration.

General Motors Co (GM.N) Chief Executive Mary Barra on Sunday said tax reform and "streamlining regulations ... are just two areas that would be extremely beneficial" for Trump to address. Trump has criticized GM for building cars in Mexico while laying off workers in the United States.

Barra, who is on an advisory committee to Trump, told reporters that decisions about where to build specific vehicles are made "two, three four years ago". Overall, she said of Trump, "we have much more in common than we have different."

TOUTING INVESTMENTS

Fiat Chrysler's announcement landed as global auto industry executives gathered for the annual auto show in a climate of growing uncertainty about the trade and regulatory policies the new Republican administration will pursue.

Trump, who will be inaugurated on Jan. 20, has talked about rolling back environmental regulations, and supporting corporate tax cuts - moves automakers would welcome.

He has just as explicitly warned that he will raise the costs of importing vehicles from Mexico, a policy industry executives said could hurt their businesses. Most major U.S. automakers have substantial vehicle making operations in Mexico, as well as complex networks of parts makers that supply their U.S. factories in states such as Ohio and Michigan.

Many automakers are using the annual North American International Auto show in Detroit, which started on Saturday, to tout investments in the United States.

Daimler AG (DAIGn.DE) Chief Executive Dieter Zetsche on Sunday said the German automaker planned to invest another $1.3 billion to expand sport utility vehicle (SUV) production at a factory in Alabama.

Hinrich Woebcken, chief executive of the North America Region for German automaker Volkswagen AG (VOWG_p.DE), told Reuters on Sunday the automaker plans to invest $7 billion in the United States between 2015 and 2019 and will start building its new Atlas SUV in Tennessee later this year.

Volkswagen has had a plant in Mexico for 50 years and it is not shifting any jobs to Mexico from the United States.

"We do not make our investment decisions based on administrative cycles. Our business is really an 8-, 12-, 14-year horizon when we look at investments," Woebcken said on the sidelines of the Detroit auto show.

PLAYING UP U.S. INVESTMENTS

Since Trump's election, automakers and other companies have played up their investments in the United States.

Last week, Ford scrapped plans to build a $1.6 billion plant in Mexico and invest $700 million in a factory in Michigan. Ford will still move production of Focus small cars to Mexico, but will cut total production of the cars by consolidating their assembly in an existing Mexican plant.

FCA said a plant in Warren, Michigan, near Detroit, would make the Jeep Wagoneer and Jeep Grand Wagoneer SUVs, while a Toledo, Ohio, factory would produce the Jeep pickup.

The company said the production plans in Ohio and Michigan were "subject to the negotiation and final approval of incentives by state and local entities".

U.S. consumers have increasingly shifted toward SUVs and pickup trucks and away from sedans in recent years, as gasoline prices have remained relatively low.

A year ago, Marchionne said FCA would cease production of two sedans and focus on SUVs and pickups.

Marchionne said in a statement on Sunday that the lineup changes were due to that consumer shift.

"We continue to reinforce the U.S. as a global manufacturing hub" for SUVs and pickup trucks, he added.

(Reporting by Nick Carey, David Shepardson and Bernie Woodall; Editing by Joseph White and Tiffany Wu)

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[Cog]

Trump has done more to create American jobs in two months than Obama accomplished in eight years. And the man is not even president yet.

[yellowcanoe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'T')rump has done more to falsely claim to save American jobs in two months than Obama accomplished in eight years. And the man is not even president yet.

[Cog]

Chrysler is thinking about shutting down all Mexican automobile production. Trump is going to change how business is done here. Its pay to play. You want to play in the trade with the USA, you are going to pay. Totally unlike Obama and his eight year apology tour.

Losers, liberals, and supplicants form an orderly line. The voters have found you wanting.