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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 16 Apr 2009, 16:34:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Delphis', 'A')lways enjoy Vision Masters post!

The Mayans experimented, or more specifically I feel were shown how to manupulate the "dreamspell" and for any Carlos Casteneda fans there is a lot of shamanic evidence and pass down knowledge of dream/ trance effecting our waking reality. I too have had wave and rising water dreams, google earth has a great add on for golbal sea level mapping and I look forward to hearing more about some of the other POilers dreams.

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In Near-Death experiencers DMT (potent psychedelic drug) is released. The Spirit Molecule. The gateway to the afterlife.

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FYI: The Tibetan Book of the Dead - After death go towards the Blue Light!
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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Thu 16 Apr 2009, 17:02:47

OK, nice, up now pre work coffee...
Here's some of my dreams content:

1/ Revisiting scenes so often there are as real as 'reality' yet I am aware they exist only in my dream space.

2/ Sets of people I have never met anywhere else except in dreams; some of these have been around for decades.

3/ Space ship dreams, not dinky toys but massive 'Universities' of the sky; where the subject is 'Eternal Life'.

4/ 'Knowing' dreams where the pieces of a puzzle come together and there is a deep understanding of a conflictual relationship here.

5/ Surfing the Tsunami.

6/ Volcanoes and water spouts simultaneously.

7/ Caves, not fancy ones but like kids home made cubby houses.

8/ Themed scenes with similar related subject matter.

Personally I don't go for controlling dreams, it feels inappropriate; like a failure to surrender to the lesson of the dream.
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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 16 Apr 2009, 17:12:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'O')K, nice, up now pre work coffee...
Here's some of my dreams content:

1/ Revisiting scenes so often there are as real as 'reality' yet I am aware they exist only in my dream space.

2/ Sets of people I have never met anywhere else except in dreams; some of these have been around for decades.

3/ Space ship dreams, not dinky toys but massive 'Universities' of the sky; where the subject is 'Eternal Life'.

4/ 'Knowing' dreams where the pieces of a puzzle come together and there is a deep understanding of a conflictual relationship here.

5/ Surfing the Tsunami.

6/ Volcanoes and water spouts simultaneously.

7/ Caves, not fancy ones but like kids home made cubby houses.

8/ Themed scenes with similar related subject matter.

Personally I don't go for controlling dreams, it feels inappropriate; like a failure to surrender to the lesson of the dream.


Pinging Carl! :lol:
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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 16 Apr 2009, 17:42:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')Pinging Carl! :lol:
Yes, Jung. The interpretation of the ocean wave that comes in over all the land in dreaming that I mentioned is Freudian. It's a bit murky, as I recall, what he meant. But certainly involving birth. In his way of thinking, time can go backwards as readily as forward in the unconscious and thus the dream is birth. Seems to me that a return to timeless floating for ages in the womb makes a better inperpretation: back to the sea forever. Ever notice how a year seems shorter and shorter as the years go by? Take that back to pre-natal times when we go from a single cell to a baby and it must have seemed like eternity - no time no wants never cold never hungry.
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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby blukatzen » Thu 16 Apr 2009, 17:47:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', '
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5/ Surfing the Tsunami.


I'm trying to desensitize my fear of "the big wave" by watching stuff like this on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlPqL7IUT6M

but the waves I am referring to are more like this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGEVaDxeMCc&feature=related

or this..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKSHPx5EHQk&feature=related

or even this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VXa82AuwHU

Hey, I guess we've gotta "go with the flow"... :shock:

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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 16 Apr 2009, 17:59:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('blukatzen', '
')I'm trying to desensitize my fear of "the big wave"

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We left the "sea" in pain through into cold and into white light and giants that smack our faces. It stands to reason the journey home would be equally painful and fearsome. One thing I'm sure of is that such a profound and widespread dream has an archetypical message.
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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby Caffeine » Thu 16 Apr 2009, 18:09:06

I've had noticeably more vivid and detailed dreams in the past several months. Their content has changed a lot too (from usually mundane to much more weird). I don't typically have dreams that I control while I'm dreaming, though.
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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 16 Apr 2009, 18:43:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')Pinging Carl! :lol:
Yes, Jung. The interpretation of the ocean wave that comes in over all the land in dreaming that I mentioned is Freudian. It's a bit murky, as I recall, what he meant. But certainly involving birth. In his way of thinking, time can go backwards as readily as forward in the unconscious and thus the dream is birth. Seems to me that a return to timeless floating for ages in the womb makes a better inperpretation: back to the sea forever. Ever notice how a year seems shorter and shorter as the years go by? Take that back to pre-natal times when we go from a single cell to a baby and it must have seemed like eternity - no time no wants never cold never hungry.



Let's swim to the moon, ah ha
Let's climb through the tide
Penetrate the evenin' that the
City sleeps to hide
Let's swim out tonight, love
It's our turn to try
Parked beside the ocean
On our moonlight drive
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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby bodigami » Fri 17 Apr 2009, 01:52:50

i usually have lucid dreams. Lately they have being increasing, and i remember that in one i interacted much more with people that I don't know in "real life". Also, some feel quite real (thankfully, because the one i remember was great =)

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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby bromius » Fri 17 Apr 2009, 02:04:47

Over time I feel like I've developed a partial conscious awareness that I'm dreaming. Its not at a point where I can overtly influence the direction of the dream, but the reaction of my consciousness to events in the dream do seem to filter back into the direction it takes.

Once in a blue moon I'll have a fully lucid dream. The last time it happened was a few months ago. I dreamed that I was getting on a train to go visit my best friend who lives a few cities over. I boarded the train, it started moving and after awhile I found myself feeling sleepy, so I leaned back in the seat and closed my eyes. Abruptly, I found myself in the middle of a train station, something akin to the pictures you see of stations in the big cities during the golden age of rail. It was disorienting for a moment. I started walking, thinking, "My god, its going to be a long walk from here." That disorientation was what brought me to a fully lucid state. I knew that only moments before I had been dozing off in my seat on the train and yet now here I was in the station, hundreds of miles from where I should be. I remember smiling or laughing because the entire situation became very funny, realizing that it was obviously a dream.

At that point I decided to test that idea, so I took off all my clothes, even though it was winter and supposed to be cold. I started walking naked through the station and the air was filled with a warm, golden light. Shortly after I woke up. I have a hard time staying 'asleep' once I hit this level of self awareness in a dream. Overall I woke up feeling quite good. In day to day life, I often feel constrained by a sense of modesty and self consciousness. In light of that, the dream was quite liberating. My personality has not changed radically since then, but I think a barrier might have been breeched somewhere inside my mind.
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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Fri 17 Apr 2009, 03:25:33

A Tsunami of dreams!
I had one a couple of nights ago where RE was with a bunch of friends at a shopping center waiting to see a move at the cinema in the complex. I had never been there before in either 'reality'; I had phoned RE and been told by a young lady where to meet him.
He was cool, quiet and sophisticated. In the end I didn't care to see the movie but I was pleased to have 'met' RE.
While they went in to see the movie I waited out the front for a covert meeting with Jack; we were going to look into some 'Hard core Reality' stuff.
This was my 1st dream directly related to this board.
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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby truecougarblue » Fri 17 Apr 2009, 16:24:08

If we look through the control aspect of lucid dreaming as per the posts here we can see that the key is realizing that one is dreaming.

I have also found this to be the case. Once I realize it's a dream I can direct the action like a motion picture. The hard thing is coming to that realization.

I got a hint on CTC a few years back from one of Art Bell's guests. If one makes a habit of reading signs, looking away, and looking back to read them again it helps. This is a nearly sure "tell" of a dream state, as the randomness of the dream changes the words between readings. I've observed this to be true in dreams, and it has helped me take control of at least a couple.

I also think that most lucid dreaming happens when it's nearly morning and one's internal clock is rousing the conscious mind.

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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sat 18 Apr 2009, 03:21:52

The dream within a dream is an amazing phenomena. Waking up from a dream only to then realize one is still dreaming, of being awake.
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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby bratticus » Sun 19 Apr 2009, 09:25:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('truecougarblue', ' ')Once I realize it's a dream I can direct the action like a motion picture. The hard thing is coming to that realization.


Every time it's happened to me, the clue has been feeling paralyzed. I know at some very deep level that I'm in a state of paralysis while I'm dreaming and therefor I realize that I'm dreaming when I feel paralyzed.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Sleep Paralysis as an Anomalous REM State

... skip ...

One likely function of the general atonia is the prevention of the physical enactment of the motor components of dreaming.

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I think that sleepwalking is where sleep paralysis fails allowing you to move when it's not a safe idea.
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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby bratticus » Tue 21 Apr 2009, 06:34:15

Man I wish that dream I had last night was a lucid one. I felt so victimized by circumstances in it. My dead lover who I've never dreamed of before came back but I was working in a drug store, like a CVS or something. I've never had a job like that I wouldn't know how to realistically fake it even. But Bobby came right up to me and started making out standing up with our clothes on right in front of my boss. I felt like I couldn't be doing that so I started walking away. I spent the rest of the dream walking away from my Bobby and my boss who were both following me through the store and outside and through some hallways in a house with five cute dogs. Three were triplet puppies and there were two other small dogs. All of them were afflicted with some disorder that cause a bald spot on their backs to the left or right of their tails. Then I woke up feeling that Bobby had finally come back and I had sold him out for some dumb job.
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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Tue 21 Apr 2009, 08:11:42

I had one a night or 2 ago about a group of my feral soul buddies building like a 3 bedroom house with a shovel. It was litterally a hole on the ground leading to a small network of caves. They had found small oil deposits in the sand where they had dug. They were collecting this oil by hand and calling it precious. Not in a Gollumish way but scientificly and practicly. The oil was being used for heating and light as well as cooking. They told me that in sandy country it's common to find these oily deposits. They were showing me how to build one of these sand caves using cement lime from the beach to reinforce it.
The oil was clear, not black.

Bratticus, I suggest affirming the reality of you dreams to yourself, give yourself permission to believe they are real. For in fact they are real, just different reality from the waking one.
My disempowering dreams ceased during Saturn return when I was 28 years old. I chose to accept them as not unreal, just another plane of reality. Interestingly immortality is common on this other plane.
In doing so remember that it's a moral universe and your morals will reflect more on how you can dream than they do in slow karma reality here on Earth. There is a sense of guilt and shame pervading this dream; do you know why?
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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 21 Apr 2009, 09:39:04

Last night I dreamed how our souls fit like a peace in the afterlife puzzle. Very cool. :-D
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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby Delphis » Tue 21 Apr 2009, 10:06:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'L')ast night I dreamed how our souls fit like a peace in the afterlife puzzle. Very cool. :-D


Puzzle pieces in the afterlife? I like that, I have a recurring dream about the earth as a genetic library and I am one of the stewards to protect it. I tell many people in my dream that the code to the life forms on the planet is mapped in the stars like a puzzle...when I concentrate hard enough, with enough dream friends, the stars form an image of the life form on earth and a beam rediates down to the appropriate plant, animal, etc. I know that sounds odd, but I always wake up feeling amazing and charged, no back thoughts or reservations.

Last night I dreamt I was wandering through a city I had never been in, where all the houses were built far too high. As, I commented to my dream posse on the precarious buildings, some with the garage stories up above the house and leaning to and fro like Dr. Suess...we went inside the labyrinth of rooms beneath the structures and you could see light throught the slats of lathe (no plaster) and we quickly tried to put up vertical boards to try and help prolong the structure(s)...to no avail as the nails bent and the hammer slowed down just before impact...

Anyone have an idea what that sybolizes? I thought perhaps the financial system, built and leveraged to an unsafe height? No matter how we try to shore it up, it is useless...very uneasy, creepy felling come wake time...but I would welcome your thoughts...

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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 21 Apr 2009, 10:10:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')ast night I dreamt I was wandering through a city I had never been in, where all the houses were built far too high. As, I commented to my dream posse on the precarious buildings, some with the garage stories up above the house and leaning to and fro like Dr. Suess...we went inside the labyrinth of rooms beneath the structures and you could see light throught the slats of lathe (no plaster) and we quickly tried to put up vertical boards to try and help prolong the structure(s)...to no avail as the nails bent and the hammer slowed down just before impact...

Anyone have an idea what that sybolizes? I thought perhaps the financial system, built and leveraged to an unsafe height? No matter how we try to shore it up, it is useless...very uneasy, creepy felling come wake time...but I would welcome your thoughts...


Those kind of dreams are about entering different parts of yer brain consciousness.
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Re: Lucid Dreams Anyone?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Tue 21 Apr 2009, 10:12:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'L')ast night I dreamed how our souls fit like a peace in the afterlife puzzle. Very cool. :-D


Wow, that reminds me of one I had during Saturn return catharsis:
I am bowed over, curled in a ball, with a deep sense of peace like I haven't had before.
A voice in my ear says 'We are here now, we are all together again'.
I lifted my head to fin I was one of 5 people all bowing together.
These other 4 have reappeared in many dreams, I know them as soul mates, there are others that come along sometimes but these ones are recurring. I have never met or laid eyes on any of them in 'reality'.

I read this dream as looking for a deep feeling of peace with people and finding it. The dreams these people show up in are always important teaching dreams. Often they are to do with trancendence.
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