[PeakKYJelly]

Another possibility is that someone invented/discovered an alernative energy source years or decades ago, but it's not as profitable as oil. Then, when oil runs out, *poof*, all of a sudden someone will announce his "new" energy source, and civilization will be saved.

[some_guy282]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PeakKYJelly', 'A')nother possibility is that someone invented/discovered an alernative energy source years or decades ago, but it's not as profitable as oil. Then, when oil runs out, *poof*, all of a sudden someone will announce his "new" energy source, and civilization will be saved.

[meemoe_uk]

yes. me

[Beery1]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PeakKYJelly', 'A')nother possibility is that someone invented/discovered an alernative energy source years or decades ago, but it's not as profitable as oil. Then, when oil runs out, *poof*, all of a sudden someone will announce his "new" energy source, and civilization will be saved.

[SeaGypsy]

Flogging a dead horse beery, check the dates; memoe is just bored.

[Econ101]

The magical energy sources often promoted by the masterminds of the peak oil con job are solar and wind.

[evilgenius]

It depends upon what you mean by technology and upon what constitutes salvation. Certainly the absolute basket of alternative technologies can supply a certain amount of electricity to mankind on this planet. The trick is, that amount is nothing like the extravagant level man has gotten used to using first coal, then oil, then natural gas. Only people with a death wish, or a death delusion cannot see the truth that we aren't heading for total destruction. What constitutes some form of power down is not 'total destruction'.

That being said, would the discovery of what energy is by definition other than, 'the ability to do work', necessarily be a technological thing? Was the discovery of relativity a technological thing? Neither would this kind of thing qualify as an energy source, not technically. All it would do would be to allow us to understand how to manipulate the cosmos in order to make energy from what, nothing, time, matter?

[meemoe_uk]

Not quite seagypsy, kublikan wanted me to dredge the old posts. I couldn't resist a post on this one, since alternative energy is something I've investigated long and hard. There are plenty of alternative energy sources. But the ultimate source of energy was discovered in principles and experiments of the 1930s. Nuclear power. It's something I'm still reading about today. My current estimate is that we've got at least 10 billion years worth of nuclear energy with todays technology and understanding, but the TPTB don't like it cos a world with fully installed nuclear fusion would be a world where everyone is effectively millionares in energy.
In other words humans have already solved the energy problem FOR EVER !!!
I'm convinced.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evilgenius', '
')That being said, would the discovery of what energy is by definition other than, 'the ability to do work', necessarily be a technological thing? Was the discovery of relativity a technological thing? Neither would this kind of thing qualify as an energy source, not technically. All it would do would be to allow us to understand how to manipulate the cosmos in order to make energy from what, nothing, time, matter?