[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '
')Why are you so rude to R.E?

[jupiters_release]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'J')Release--The banking elite don't form one overarching monolothic controlling entity, operating in lockstep. There are likely factions that work together, more or less, but cohesion can erode or break down along family lines, when things get difficult.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', '
')
He's full of himself, kinda reminds me of my adolescence. But seriously I don't like reading the same nonsense in every thread.

[jupiters_release]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', '
')
He's full of himself, kinda reminds me of my adolescence. But seriously I don't like reading the same nonsense in every thread.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', '
')Ironically, I wish you were right about all this, that's what really pisses me off, that it's not.

[threadbear]

JR--Everyone has a slightly different model about how it all works, often based on their own experiences, the experiences of friends and acquaintances and what they've read. My own best guess is "the elite" operate like organized crime. We have just emerged from a long period where the the Anglo American crime families, represented by the fed and the british central bank, set policy and everyone fell in line. It appears that could be changing. Merkel of Germany isn't happy with the status quo, nor is Russia or China. I just wonder who and what is going to get whacked.

[jupiters_release]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
')If we don't live long enough, we'll certainly know the Truth once we pass over into the Great Beyond.

See you on the Other Side.

Reverse Engineer

[SeaGypsy]

While I do believe some extreme high level conspiracies have gone on since time immemorial; this to me is more like a conspiracy of nature rather than men.

The Club of Rome idea is a bit too easy an explaination for what's happening. The way I see it the case with conspiracy on a global scale comes under the same order as Mafia, elite Frats, biker gangs, etc.
As above, so below.

Crime gangs have some things in common:

Short to medium term focus on profit and control.

The threat of violent death for any kind of betrayal.

Connections in the highest Offices down to the dirtiest streets.

Connections with other crime gangs; without ceding control of turf.

Given that the fuel for an elite human controlled meta- man society is running out; time is also running short along with the ability for anyone to have any say in what ends up happening.

With the failure of capitalism, the only natural successors are anarchic regionalism or totalitarian communism. I would prefer the former but the latter is very likely in many parts of the world. This boils down to the fact that when the current master can no longer feed the sheeple; they will go to the fence where the grass looks greenest at the time. They may jump into the wilderness or into the fascist's farm; but they are most unlikely to stay and starve willingly if they can see any kind of option.

The idea that State Militaries will line up endlessly to defend the elites is pretty preposterous also; when they see the system failing their own kin they will think and act in defence of their kin.

As far as I am aware the communists are the only organization with a global reach and real idealism at the core; who are ready to put forward any kind of real option for the starving minions.

Most unfortunately the likely unfolding of events will see our current capitalist leaders donning the wool making out they were always really communists at heart and capitalism was a failed social program in the end, but boy! Didn't we have some fun!

The battle of Armageddon will be fought between the old school communists and new age converts; both trying to cling to power as humanity at large is forced into localism to survive while the big boys have it out with each other. The Dragon, the Whore and the Sheeple.

[ralfy]

Big business essentially runs the country, lobbying government to deregulate and to implement policies to its advantage. From the '80s onwards, it began to hollow out manufacturing through outsourcing and turn Main Street to Wall Street.

Be wary of neocon propaganda that proclaims the benefits of some "free" market and insists that the current crisis is caused by government regulation.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', 'B')ig business essentially runs the country, lobbying government to deregulate and to implement policies to its advantage. From the '80s onwards, it began to hollow out manufacturing through outsourcing and turn Main Street to Wall Street.

Be wary of neocon propaganda that proclaims the benefits of some "free" market and insists that the current crisis is caused by government regulation.