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Re: The Witch Hunt Begins

Unread postby highlander » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 18:49:34

Justice, righteous, what a load of crapola
nothing resembling justice in America
nothing righteous about any side of this con

I do agree with the concept of a war. Not civil, but class. I do like the odds though! I'll take 99 to 1 any day it comes to a real fight.
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Re: The Witch Hunt Begins

Unread postby Monk » Sat 21 Mar 2009, 02:38:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mark', 'T')he civil war game plays on.



The civil war between the top 1% of wealth-owners in the population, and the 99% of the rest of us?

If not that civil war, then what civil war?


so, you are ok with 'that' civil war'?

I don't think most of these people getting bonuses from AIG are in the top 1% of wealth-owners anyway.
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Re: The Witch Hunt Begins

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sat 21 Mar 2009, 02:55:07

Let's start with a full audit of the top .1 of 1%.
Those deemed to have scammed their money can be asset stripped and bankrupted. Those who paid themselves millions in golden handshakes from bailout money should all be at the top of the list.
How many of the million a month club would be squeaky clean?
Maybe the 400kpa club will come out smelling like roses and be able to hold onto most of their dough?
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Re: The Witch Hunt Begins

Unread postby Sixstrings » Sat 21 Mar 2009, 03:58:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ne would expect this sort of response from the average american whom this public relations decoy was intended for. The sophistication level is akin to the media blaming terrorism on Al Qaeda, basically it's a little worrying that this stuff works on anyone above the age of a middle school kid, especially a member of this forum who has no excuse to not know who the real pigmen are. Cognitive dissonance and ego are directly proportional in size. Time to grow up RE.


Jupiters, of course we all know the bonus thing is technically small fry.

The problem here is that our collective faces are being rubbed in this, over and over. If AIG had just taken their money, gone and sinned no more then folks wouldn't be in such a frenzy over this. But they haven't, they've kept on with their masters of the universe thieving ways, and that's what's causing the outrage in so many folks -- it's the added insult to injury.

One would almost think that AIG is a planned scapegoat, with all the relentless drip-drip-drip of outrage in the press. But I think not.. why would TPTB scapegoat an outfit they're sinking so much money into?

No, I think AIG is the real deal -- Notorious Gangsters. And it pisses people off.

CitiGroup is another bad apple, though they kept their noses slightly cleaner than AIG with the Outrage of the Week stuff. This bad behavior on the part of Corporate America has been going on for years, and people have had it. Remember Enron, joking about ransoming electricity to old ladies in California? And who can forget Dennis Kozlowski of Tyco?

Robber barons, the whole lot of them -- but worse, they don't even have the good business sense of a Rockefeller.
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Re: The Witch Hunt Begins

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Sat 21 Mar 2009, 04:10:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'R')obber barons, the whole lot of them -- but worse, they don't even have the good business sense of a Rockefeller.


The Rockefellers own AIG, or at least a good portion of it. That is "good business sense"? The Rockefellers own a good portion of the Fed as well. That is "good business sense"?

Its good STEALING sense. The Rockefellers are of course the ORIGINAL "Robber Barons", along with the Rothschilds, JP Morgan, the DuPonts, the Carnegies, et al.

Sixstrings, you have to get this straight. These folks didn't get filty rich by "good business sense" They got rich by being fabulous THIEVES. All Capitalism is really is legislated Thievery. Until you grasp that, you are missing the point big time.

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Re: The Witch Hunt Begins

Unread postby Sixstrings » Sat 21 Mar 2009, 04:42:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Rockefellers own AIG, or at least a good portion of it. That is "good business sense"?


Lol, boy that figures! Actually, AIG for most of its life was a good company, insuring real things -- bricks, mortar, steal.

With their historically recent all-in gamblers bet on credit default swaps, they went off the deep end and took us in with them.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hese folks didn't get filty rich by "good business sense" They got rich by being fabulous THIEVES. All Capitalism is really is legislated Thievery. Until you grasp that, you are missing the point big time.


Yes, I know just how evil the robber barons were. You read me wrong, I wasn't holding them up as some kind of paragons of virtue.

Rockefeller was rapacious, yes, but my point is that he did not run his companies into the ground losing bets. Rockefeller won his bets, time and again.
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Re: The Witch Hunt Begins

Unread postby Sixstrings » Sat 21 Mar 2009, 04:49:55

Per the topic of this thread, here is the secret AIG memo regarding their fears of a witch hunt:
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Re: The Witch Hunt Begins

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Sat 21 Mar 2009, 05:05:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')Rockefeller was rapacious, yes, but my point is that he did not run his companies into the ground losing bets. Rockefeller won his bets, time and again.


That is a myth. The Rockefellers were part of the original Ponzi scheme of the Fed, and always had the monetary resource of the tax base to fund their projects. They could undercut anybody else, gain hegemony over markets that way. John D won his bets sure, but he won them because he was rigging the game. He's out there playing Blackjack but he owns the Dealer that is feeding him the cards. Its not "gambling" when you own the House. Your reverence for the Rockefellers as good businessmen is misplaced. They simply were good thieves who got in their first, like the Rothschilds. Inherited Wealth, corrupted Politicians and the legal system did the rest. If you hold up the Rockefellers as Good Businessmen, you are effectively buying into the idea that they won their money fair and square. They did not.

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Re: The Witch Hunt Begins

Unread postby Crazy_Dad » Sun 22 Mar 2009, 05:53:58

Exactly right RE.
In Australia we say "Bloody oath mate".

This is the nail hit straight on the head. The only thing that will give me pleasure WTSHTF is that these bastards taste the same as anyone else.
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Re: The Witch Hunt Begins

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Sun 22 Mar 2009, 06:52:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Crazy_Dad', 'E')xactly right RE.
In Australia we say "Bloody oath mate".

This is the nail hit straight on the head. The only thing that will give me pleasure WTSHTF is that these bastards taste the same as anyone else.


Its coming to Theatre Near You CD, sooner than most people realize. This is a globablly distributed film, a Blockbuster. Unfortunately, many of us won't be around to see the sequel.

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Re: The Witch Hunt Begins

Unread postby drgoodword » Sun 22 Mar 2009, 07:12:21

Thanks for posting a copy of that memo, sixstrings. Very telling.

I think that memo also points to a much larger problem that the ruling class will have if the recession/depression continues for another couple of years with worsening unemployment: cataclysmic civil unrest.
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