[Crazy_Dad]

For many of us, going it alone on a rural property is just not a financial reality.
That being said I intend to try and get up to 10 other families/individuals to join together to start a sustainable property. I don't want to go into logistics in this thread, just what peoples thoughts are on how such a community might run, or what models are out there and working now.

Things like - Constitution, dispute resolution, division of labour, law and order, defense, how establishment might view you(Not like Waco I hope).

I guess I have different models on such things as councils with elected heads with varying rules and time limits, veto powers etc, as well as the banning of religion as a voice on such councils as there may be people of various ethnic backgrounds.

I think the concept could work and I'm expecting posters to be thinking of how this council will work when systemic failure of our current law and order system starts to fail.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

[Crazy_Dad]

Please elaborate on your experiences pstarr
Yes well crazy is as crazy does to paraphrase a certain cretin we all know.
How crazy is the world for carrying on the same as we did yesterday, today?

[timmac]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Crazy_Dad', 'F')or many of us, going it alone on a rural property is just not a financial reality.
That being said I intend to try and get up to 10 other families/individuals to join together to start a sustainable property. I don't want to go into logistics in this thread, just what peoples thoughts are on how such a community might run, or what models are out there and working now.

Things like - Constitution, dispute resolution, division of labour, law and order, defense, how establishment might view you(Not like Waco I hope).

I guess I have different models on such things as councils with elected heads with varying rules and time limits, veto powers etc, as well as the banning of religion as a voice on such councils as there may be people of various ethnic backgrounds.

I think the concept could work and I'm expecting posters to be thinking of how this council will work when systemic failure of our current law and order system starts to fail.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

[Crazy_Dad]

I have actually done an investigative trip to the country to do just what you suggested pstarr.
The community I visited was very warm and friendly. I was still talking to the farmers outside the pub/bar at 3am. It was a quiet chat about the world, life's realities, their views on the city and their community.
In a way it was a sales pitch to get me to move there

My problem is what do I do for work in such a place? I'm a city guy who works in I.T. I'm sure there are computers in the community I can fix but that is not a long term contribution. No excuse - I could quickly learn whatever I needed to do, it's just scary financially. What would be the point if I didn't have access to 10 acres of land to turn into a food forest?

A lot of these farmers are still using the fossil fuel scenario to farm. Highly mechanized etc. Once this starts to change there will be a greater demand for farm labor.

[AgentR]

My land, my law.
Git! or Git to work!

[Crazy_Dad]

Oh well, it's looking like my instinct to try and go it alone are right. AgentR - I agree, I just wish I had the land to issue 'Git' orders from

Thanks for your input Pstarr. I don't need to work in the city. I would prefer to never return to a city again if I could swing it that way. Such a catch22 situation.

[coyote]

I haven't seen gg3 around for a while, but he is another member who might have some great input on this topic. As I recall he was also heavily involved with planning and participating in an intentional community or two. Dad, you might do a search for some of his older posts and see if you can find something relevant to your questions.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', 'I') like the idea of buying land with other peakers and subdividing.

[Crazy_Dad]

I've seen land 660 acres for $85k AU
Much of it is probably salt affected and marginal - thus the price.
Perhaps stewardship could make much of it productive?
It's also a long way from Civ, but thats a good thing IMHO.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Crazy_Dad', 'I')'ve seen land 660 acres for $85k AU
Much of it is probably salt affected and marginal - thus the price.
Perhaps stewardship could make much of it productive?
It's also a long way from Civ, but thats a good thing IMHO.