[KevO]

anyway there would have to be a military connection for this to be deliberate

Baxter Board of Directors
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')alter E. Boomer, age 69, has served as a Director of Baxter since 1997. From 1997 until his retirement in April 2004, General Boomer served as President and Chief Executive Officer of Rogers Corporation, a manufacturer of specialty materials for targeted applications. General Boomer also served as Chairman of the Board of Rogers Corporation between April 2002 and April 2004 and continues as director. From 1994 to 1996, he served as Executive Vice President of McDermott International Inc. and President of the Babcock & Wilcox Power Generation Group. In 1994, General Boomer retired as a General and Assistant Commandant of the United States Marine Corps after 34 years of service.

[Blueberry]

I can't find info on this anywhere. Does that mean it's not true??

[Jotapay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Blueberry', 'I') can't find info on this anywhere. Does that mean it's not true??

[scarly]

I am not sure that this is too close to birdflu, but it is about a lot of deaths recently, on certain symptoms.

There has been a flu like thing going around in my rural area, that no one can get better from. Once they get better, it comes around again a month later. Some people are getting thier third round of this stuff. In December my brother got this stuff, as well as the woman who works with him. A month later she died of infection in less than 12 hours. Another girl locally drowned in her own mucus, She was a handicapped girl in high school. Not including right now I hear rumors around town that the emergency rooms are packed with people trying to get treated.

This is also through family in FL going on down there too.

MRSA and whatever this flu is seems like the start of a pandemic.

In a town of only a few hundred people, there were 18 funerals last month, in this small town.

It is enough to make you scared to go out of your house for fear of getting sick. It might actually kill you.

The question I have is, has anyone noticed this trend in your area. A combo of a deathly flu mixed with a type of MRSA?

[Jotapay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('scarly', 'T')he question I have is, has anyone noticed this trend in your area. A combo of a deathly flu mixed with a type of MRSA?

[scarly]

North Western NC. Mitchell County.

[Jotapay]

My brother works in health care in Wake Forest, NC. I'll ask him about it.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('scarly', 'I') am not sure that this is too close to birdflu, but it is about a lot of deaths recently, on certain symptoms.

There has been a flu like thing going around in my rural area, that no one can get better from. Once they get better, it comes around again a month later. Some people are getting thier third round of this stuff. In December my brother got this stuff, as well as the woman who works with him. A month later she died of infection in less than 12 hours. Another girl locally drowned in her own mucus, She was a handicapped girl in high school. Not including right now I hear rumors around town that the emergency rooms are packed with people trying to get treated.

This is also through family in FL going on down there too.

MRSA and whatever this flu is seems like the start of a pandemic.

In a town of only a few hundred people, there were 18 funerals last month, in this small town.

It is enough to make you scared to go out of your house for fear of getting sick. It might actually kill you.

The question I have is, has anyone noticed this trend in your area. A combo of a deathly flu mixed with a type of MRSA?

[scarly]

A few weekends ago my brother went with his respite worker, who has been sick, and come to find out, now has pnuemonia (don't know how to spell that) Well when she had him one day, she didn't look too bad, and sounded a little conjested, but a few hours after getting back from being with her, he started with a sore throat, swollen lymph glands, and a sinus headache, fever, and extreme fatigue. Next my mother got it. Luckly, my stepfather and I are doing well fighting with slight symptoms, but we have not gone medical, we are sticking to natural immune methods. My mom and my brother got better, but there is no telling if they will get it again.

In fact I know of several people who have pnuemonia right now, this is what the stuff turns into. Then you hear infection, and with MRSA being so prevalent in hospitals, next thing you know the infection can kill in hours to a few days.

This bug, whatever it is, hits fast and hard, if you aren't prepared. You also have the problem with the misuse of antibiotics, which is causing a whole other problem. The misuse of antibiotics is the cause of MRSA becoming more and more common.

It is like when you get this flu it takes down your immune system so much that you get a case of MRSA and there is no way to fight it. Very scary.

The whole situation is frightening, which is why I was asking about, has anyone seen this going on anywheres else.

I know that there is this case going on in FL where I have relatives. But would like to know if anyone has noticed thier area, and if not maybe ya'll can keep an eye out for this stuff for your safety.

[alokin]

Maybe bad speculation, the incident with the American ship and the incident that most of the bird flu cases occur in China.....the Chinese who hold the most dollars in the world...putting a bit of pressure??
Maybe it's too far fetched.


Since 9/11 my view on politics changed drastically. Before I always thought they are usual people with different opinions, but now I think they are either criminal or under life threatening pressure.

Could not all vaccination be contaminated? Here in Australia vaccination is nearly mandatory.

[chuck6877]

I haven't been on peakoil.com in months but I'm SHOCKED no information about what happened below isn't here!!
From: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/vital ... demic.aspx

Were Tainted Vaccines a Conspiracy to Provoke a Pandemic?

Czech newspapers are questioning whether the shocking discovery of vaccines contaminated with the deadly avian flu virus -- distributed to 18 countries by the American company Baxter -- were part of a conspiracy to provoke a pandemic.

Because of laboratory protocols that are routine for vaccine makers, mixing a live virus biological weapon with vaccine material by accident is virtually impossible.

Baxter flu vaccines contaminated with H5N1 (the human form of avian flu) were received by labs in the Czech Republic, Germany and Slovenia. Initially, Baxter refused to reveal how the vaccines were contaminated with H5N1, invoking “trade secrets.” After increased pressure, they then claimed that pure H5N1 batches were sent by accident.

But in the Czech Republic, reporters are investigating whether the contamination was part of a deliberate attempt to start a pandemic.

The fact that Baxter mixed the deadly H5N1 virus with a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses may be the smoking gun. The H5N1 virus on its own has killed hundreds of people, but it is less airborne. However, when combined with seasonal flu viruses, which are more easily spread, the effect could be a potent, airborne, deadly biological weapon.


Dr. Mercola's Comments:

Last month vaccine maker Baxter International sent a mix of flu vaccine and unlabelled H5N1 virus (the human form of bird flu) to an Austrian research company. Expecting the shipment to contain only flu vaccine, the Austrian company then sent portions of the contaminated product to the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany.

It was only when researchers at a Czech Republic laboratory injected ferrets with the vaccine, and they unexpectedly died, that the contamination mistake was discovered.

But is “mistake” really an accurate term to describe this?

If this batch of live bird flu and seasonal flu viruses had reached the public, it could have resulted in dire consequences. Even though H5N1 doesn’t easily infect people, the flu virus does. So if people were exposed to both of these viruses, they would have become hosts for the combined viruses, and would have become highly contagious and able to transmit the deadly bird flu virus to others.

There is actually a name for this mixing of viruses; it’s called “reassortment,” and even The Canadian Press has pointed out that it is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created.

Could the Contamination Have Been a Plot to Start a Deadly Pandemic?

A spokesman for Baxter said the virus material was supposed to contain a seasonal flu virus and was contaminated after “human error.”

Yet, other sources say Baxter International adheres to something called BSL3 (Biosafety Level 3). This strict set of laboratory safety protocols is in place to prevent the cross-contamination of materials, and according to some may have made it virtually impossible for the live bird flu virus to contaminate a flu vaccine by accident.

Czech newspapers are among those questioning whether this was a deliberate act to start a pandemic, and there’s even been talk of plans to use the vaccines to carry out a form of population control.

But then there’s the issue of motive. Would Baxter have had any reason to carry out such a malicious and deadly scheme?

Well, if a bird flu pandemic suddenly broke out, the demand for bird flu vaccines would certainly skyrocket … and the profits from such a mass vaccination program would be astronomical.

Does the Past Give us Any Clues?

You may be thinking that such a conspiracy is too far-fetched to be accurate. But it is worth mentioning that some scientists say the most recent global outbreak -- the 1977 Russian flu -- was started by a virus leaked from a laboratory.

Further, drug companies are certainly not best known for their sterling moral values.

In 2006, for instance, it came out that the drug company Bayer sold millions of dollars worth of an injectable blood-clotting medicine to Asian, Latin American, and some European countries in the mid-1980s, even though they knew it was tainted with the AIDS virus.

So while it is unthinkable that a drug company would knowingly contaminate flu vaccines with a deadly bird flu virus, it is certainly not impossible.

[papa moose]

Hong Kong confirms human case of bird flu
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/hong-kong-confirms-human-case-of-bird-flu-20101118-17ykh.html

[Pretorian]

boooring! give me a 100 dead and 500 infected, within 1 city, then we'll talk

[rangerone314]

12 Monkeys would solve the peak oil problem and overpopulation...

[Fiddlerdave]

Its baaaack!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WNrx2jq184

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]New Bird Flu Strain Is ‘One Of The Most Lethal’ Viruses Of Its Kind, Global Health Experts Warn

The World Health Organization (WHO) is warning that the new bird flu currently spreading in China, H7N9, appears to be “one of the most lethal” of its kind. So far, it’s been spreading among humans more rapidly than its H5N1 predecessor, another strain of bird flu that emerged in the country in 2003.
“When we look at influenza viruses, this is an unusually dangerous virus for humans,” Keiji Fukuda, the WHO’s assistant director-general for health security, said at a press briefing this week.

Since the H7N9 strain was first detected last month, it has infected about 108 people in China — and on Wednesday, the first report of an infection outside China emerged. A Taiwanese man contracted bird flu while on a business trip in China and was hospitalized in Taiwan once he returned.

Chinese health officials report that samples from chickens, ducks and pigeons at poultry markets have tested positive for H7N9. But it’s not yet clear where the virus is originating — and new data shows that half of the infected people may not have come into any contact with poultry at all. Until scientists are able to identify the source, they expect the bird flu to keep spreading. Fortunately, there’s been no evidence so far that the H7N9 strain can be transmitted from human-to-human contact.

Still, the emergence of H7N9 has troubled health experts, since it’s a strain of the flu that has never been seen in humans before. And after dead pigs and dead ducks suddenly flooded China’s rivers last month — Chinese officials have not yet been able to explain the cause of the animal’s deaths — there has been some speculation that this mystery may be related to the current outbreak, signaling the beginning of a pandemic.
There haven’t been any reported cases of the new bird flu in the United States yet, but the CDC has warned U.S. hospitals to be on the lookout for patients exhibiting those symptoms.
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04 ... lu-lethal/

[Tanada]

Influenza season is upon us and advertizements to get your flu shot are everywhere. Are you getting a flu shot? If not why not?

[WildRose]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'I')nfluenza season is upon us and advertizements to get your flu shot are everywhere. Are you getting a flu shot? If not why not?

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'I')nfluenza season is upon us and advertizements to get your flu shot are everywhere. Are you getting a flu shot? If not why not?

[Loki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'I')nfluenza season is upon us and advertizements to get your flu shot are everywhere. Are you getting a flu shot? If not why not?