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Juice Fasting?
by jasonraymondson » Thu 05 Mar 2009, 23:39:39
have any of you tried fruit fasting? what has been your experience?
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Re: Juice Fasting?
by oxj » Fri 06 Mar 2009, 09:18:10
Parasites may be good for you, anyway.
Nobody should get infected, but interestingly, my psoriasis cleared up immensely this year, after getting cryptosporidiosis.
Nobody should get infected, but interestingly, my psoriasis cleared up immensely this year, after getting cryptosporidiosis.
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Re: Juice Fasting?
by smallpoxgirl » Fri 06 Mar 2009, 18:55:41
Negative. Juice fasting is hippy BS IMHO. I started the paleo diet a month ago though. I'm loving that.
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Re: Juice Fasting?
by MD » Fri 06 Mar 2009, 20:25:01
My Recipe:
One bag carrots, 20lbs or so. One box apples. Eight quarts strawberries. Six bunches parsley. Six bunches spinach. Five-eight beets, depending on size. One-half box collard greens. Five to eight broccoli, depending on head size. three whole pineapple.
Process all through and industrial juice extractor. Makes about 30 quarts of juice, which lasts about three weeks held at a carefully controlled 31 degrees.
We make a batch about every three weeks, and two of us consume it.
We also enhance it with "Green Vibrance", which contains various herbs and bee poop and stuff in powder form.
When you first start to drink the stuff it'll go through you so fast you could...well...squirt it through a screen door without hitting a wire.
Once your system acclimates though it's power food. You can live off two quarts a day and shed a pound of fat a week and have boundless energy in the process.
One bag carrots, 20lbs or so. One box apples. Eight quarts strawberries. Six bunches parsley. Six bunches spinach. Five-eight beets, depending on size. One-half box collard greens. Five to eight broccoli, depending on head size. three whole pineapple.
Process all through and industrial juice extractor. Makes about 30 quarts of juice, which lasts about three weeks held at a carefully controlled 31 degrees.
We make a batch about every three weeks, and two of us consume it.
We also enhance it with "Green Vibrance", which contains various herbs and bee poop and stuff in powder form.
When you first start to drink the stuff it'll go through you so fast you could...well...squirt it through a screen door without hitting a wire.
Once your system acclimates though it's power food. You can live off two quarts a day and shed a pound of fat a week and have boundless energy in the process.
Stop filling dumpsters, as much as you possibly can, and everything will get better.
Just think it through.
It's not hard to do.
Just think it through.
It's not hard to do.
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Re: Juice Fasting?
by Narz » Sat 07 Mar 2009, 01:19:08
My GF did a couple weeks once.
I'm just not that into juice. I think water fasting (maybe with some chlorella or wheatgrass on occasion) would be better. The idea of fasting to to minimize any/all calorie intake & trigger ketosis & rapid detoxification. If you wanted to detox quickly I'd imagine juice "fasting" + salads (for the fiber) would be a quicker approach.
Pretty much the #1 way we've found to increase lifespan & overall health in animals is Intermittent fasting. Fasting rats half their lives (and letting them gorge but not too much) is pretty much the best thing we can do for them (so far).
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')ossible medical benefits
A number of studies have shown beneficial effects of IF in animals, including:
* a study finding "reduced serum glucose and insulin levels and increased resistance of neurons in the brain to excitotoxic stress"[2]
* a review of previous research that found that IF "enhance[s] cardiovascular and brain functions and improve[s] several risk factors for coronary artery disease and stroke including a reduction in blood pressure and increased insulin sensitivity" and that "cardiovascular stress adaptation is improved and heart rate variability is increased in rodents" and that "rodents maintained on an IF regimen exhibit increased resistance of heart and brain cells to ischemic injury in experimental models of myocardial infarction and stroke."[3]
* a review of research on ADF and CR found that ADF "may effectively modulate several risk factors, thereby preventing chronic disease, and that ADF may modulate disease risk to an extent similar to that of CR"[4]
* a study suggesting that IF may "ameliorate age-related deficits in cognitive function" in mice[5]
* a study suggesting that IF significantly improves biochemical parameters associated with development of diabetic nephropathy[6]
* a study showing that serum from humans following an IF diet had positive effects (reduced triglycerides in men and increased HDL in women, as well as reduced cell proliferation and increased heat resistance) in vitro on human hepatoma cells[7]
* a study showing resistance in mice to the effects of gamma irradiation[8]
* a 2008 study showing lifespan increases of 40.4% and 56.6% in C. elegans for alternate day (24 hour) and two-of-each-three day (48 hour) fasting, respectively, as compared to an ad libitum diet.[9]
* a 2009 study on rats showed markedly improved long-term survival after chronic heart failure via pro-angiogenic, anti-apoptotic and anti-remodeling effects.[10]
It is possible that IF may function as a form of nutritional hormesis.[11]
I'm just not that into juice. I think water fasting (maybe with some chlorella or wheatgrass on occasion) would be better. The idea of fasting to to minimize any/all calorie intake & trigger ketosis & rapid detoxification. If you wanted to detox quickly I'd imagine juice "fasting" + salads (for the fiber) would be a quicker approach.
Pretty much the #1 way we've found to increase lifespan & overall health in animals is Intermittent fasting. Fasting rats half their lives (and letting them gorge but not too much) is pretty much the best thing we can do for them (so far).
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')ossible medical benefits
A number of studies have shown beneficial effects of IF in animals, including:
* a study finding "reduced serum glucose and insulin levels and increased resistance of neurons in the brain to excitotoxic stress"[2]
* a review of previous research that found that IF "enhance[s] cardiovascular and brain functions and improve[s] several risk factors for coronary artery disease and stroke including a reduction in blood pressure and increased insulin sensitivity" and that "cardiovascular stress adaptation is improved and heart rate variability is increased in rodents" and that "rodents maintained on an IF regimen exhibit increased resistance of heart and brain cells to ischemic injury in experimental models of myocardial infarction and stroke."[3]
* a review of research on ADF and CR found that ADF "may effectively modulate several risk factors, thereby preventing chronic disease, and that ADF may modulate disease risk to an extent similar to that of CR"[4]
* a study suggesting that IF may "ameliorate age-related deficits in cognitive function" in mice[5]
* a study suggesting that IF significantly improves biochemical parameters associated with development of diabetic nephropathy[6]
* a study showing that serum from humans following an IF diet had positive effects (reduced triglycerides in men and increased HDL in women, as well as reduced cell proliferation and increased heat resistance) in vitro on human hepatoma cells[7]
* a study showing resistance in mice to the effects of gamma irradiation[8]
* a 2008 study showing lifespan increases of 40.4% and 56.6% in C. elegans for alternate day (24 hour) and two-of-each-three day (48 hour) fasting, respectively, as compared to an ad libitum diet.[9]
* a 2009 study on rats showed markedly improved long-term survival after chronic heart failure via pro-angiogenic, anti-apoptotic and anti-remodeling effects.[10]
It is possible that IF may function as a form of nutritional hormesis.[11]
Of course no rat would do this on his own & 99.9999% of humans wouldn't have the discipline so we do what we can. A good half (1/3.5 anyway) measure would be to fast one day a week but this is hard socially (unless you can completely set your own schedule) cause most people are retards about stuff like this "What do you mean you don't eat on Wednesdays, are you nuts? You're toenails'll fall off if you do that, the rep for Phizer said it on the phone!".
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'N')egative. Juice fasting is hippy BS IMHO. I started the paleo diet a month ago though. I'm loving that.
I'd be willing to bet that almost nothing you ate today existed in similar form 100,000 years ago.
To do it right (high quality pasture raised organic meat, including organ meat 100% organic & wildcrafted vegetables, fruit, nuts, herbs, etc.) you'd have to be pretty damn rich. Seeing as the world we live in is pretty damn toxic & toxins travel up the food chain I steer clear of most meat and the kind I'd consider ingesting is far outside my price range so I abstain for the most part.
Like with the rats how humans would like to eat (ad libitum, to use the new phrase I just learned from wiki) isn't necessarily the best way for them to. Going backwards (even if it was the answer) isn't possible. A fat grain fed cow is not wild prey nor does a sedentary lifestyle remotely resemble a hunter-gatherer's lifestyle.
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Re: Juice Fasting?
by Daniel_Plainview » Sat 07 Mar 2009, 01:27:51
I embark on a 10-day "Lemonade Diet" (lemon juice; cheyenne pepper; pure maple syrup; spring water) once per year, with salubrious cleansing results.
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Re: Juice Fasting?
by Narz » Sat 07 Mar 2009, 01:39:49
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DoomWarrior', 'I') embark on a 10-day "Lemonade Diet" (lemon juice; cheyenne pepper; pure maple syrup; spring water) once per year, with salubrious cleansing results.
Ok yeah, my girlfriend's done that one before too. She's done 'em all really.
There's pretty much no doubt in my mind regular cleansing regimes (whether they're "the best" or not) are extremely important in today's world (as long as your systematic about them). For all Roccman's rantings I gave him props for fasting a week a year like clockwork. People look to pills, potions, lotions, "diet products" & the like to give them health, I think a better approach is just to give your system a rest once in awhile & cut out crap that's bad for you (and get out of toxic locations, workplaces & relationships if you can).“Seek simplicity but distrust it”
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Re: Juice Fasting?
by MD » Sat 07 Mar 2009, 05:24:43
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '.').. People look to pills, potions, lotions, "diet products" & the like to give them health, I think a better approach is just to give your system a rest once in awhile & cut out crap that's bad for you (and get out of toxic locations, workplaces & relationships if you can).
Advice worth quoting often.
Stop filling dumpsters, as much as you possibly can, and everything will get better.
Just think it through.
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