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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby Ludi » Mon 02 Mar 2009, 11:43:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', ' ')Permaculture this.



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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby TWilliam » Mon 02 Mar 2009, 14:12:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'N')o thanks! If I were a Realist, I'd probably kill myself! :)

Perhaps. But at least it would be your choice instead of someone else's! :lol:
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby TWilliam » Mon 02 Mar 2009, 14:17:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'W')e chose to pull my uncle off life support after he had his stroke. death wth dignity. I would rather have a peaceful loving pull of the plug than have to shoot him in the head in the backyard.

I'm down with that. I've made it clear to my family that (assuming I live to that point) I want NO wasting away in a hospital bed, whether due to old age or trauma.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby rangerone314 » Mon 02 Mar 2009, 17:04:16

Looking at things as a bit deconstructionalist, I don't see any particular merit in having a huge prison population. Given the world is overpopulated, why not scrap the conventional death penalty for a person who may or may not have commited a heinous murder, and switch to a point-based system where a person gets points for various felonies, based on a weight, severity, extenuating circumstances, etc.

So if you get 500 points, then it is a mandatory death sentence. You get a limited time period to appeal to knock off 100 points (in case you were set up, bad evidence, innocent of a few crimes etc).

Basic idea is to cull the overpopulated human herd by getting rid of those who CHOOSE to behave the worst (ie career criminals). I can't think of a better criteria for killing someone than their bad behavior.

Right now, we kill people from foreign countries as collateral damage who have done nothing wrong. If it is ok to kill innocents that we know will die as consequence of us defending ourselves against someone like the A.Q., why not kill people INSIDE our country who actually ARE predators?
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby bodigami » Wed 04 Mar 2009, 01:33:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'I')ts so fuking apparent the entities that are driving the greater good into the ground. This "oh the horror it it all" I have no idea who they are I am just so innocent is such a load of BULLSh*T!
This is the idea and will come to fruition once people that are sane and strong are in control and drive out the Gynocracy. You know the ones?! You know who you are. They have created this stye with cheap oil and "saving the world" wether through the capitalist globalist utopia or through the commie hippie sh*t from the 60's. Eventually we will brush aside the old white priveleged woman gynocracy when it comes to survival of the fittest. Yes cease and desist all welfare. Top to bottom and weed em out.
I so ready for sacrifice and getting rid of these selfish aholes. Hahahaha!
Ignore the voices of these dolts. They love to confuse things and take nature and its orderly ways out of the equation. YET THEY RANT ON ABOUT how they are so environmentally friendly and all the other nonsense they spew out. They are 100% against nature and are worse than the right wingers they are so hateful of. LOL. They are part of the the anti environment movement. LOL. Are they just too dumb to understand that? green this. Eco that. Permaculture this. LOL. Band aids and bullsh*t! :-)


What are you talking about? Gynocracy... that's new :roll:
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Wed 04 Mar 2009, 03:37:16

As long as we start with the Banksters as the most virulent parasites, I'm all for culling the herd.

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby paimei01 » Wed 04 Mar 2009, 07:52:11

So you want to divide the world into "parasites" and "useful members" ?

Ok, what are they then ? :
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With food prices rising, Haiti's poorest can't afford even a daily plate of rice, and some take desperate measures to fill their bellies


Are they "useful" or "parasites" ? Are they "lazy" maybe ? Looks like they should just die, who cares. What a world we live in, if economically you are not needed, you can die. You are worth no money, just die.

Then I can show you some workers, you will say they are "useful and productive" ? Sure they are. What they produce is in the garbage in 6 months, and for our system that is a good thing. If that does not happen then the wheels stop, and people become "worthless" as measured by the system.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby dinopello » Wed 04 Mar 2009, 08:24:01

Everyone other than gardeners, engineers and pleasure workers are expendable. Actually, I'm not even sure about us engineers, I will redouble my efforts at gardening..
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby TWilliam » Wed 04 Mar 2009, 13:36:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', 'S')o you want to divide the world into "parasites" and "useful members" ?

Are they "useful" or "parasites" ? Are they "lazy" maybe ? Looks like they should just die, who cares. What a world we live in, if economically you are not needed, you can die. You are worth no money, just die.

Then I can show you some workers, you will say they are "useful and productive" ? Sure they are. What they produce is in the garbage in 6 months, and for our system that is a good thing. If that does not happen then the wheels stop, and people become "worthless" as measured by the system.

Either you misunderstand the argument, or you're deliberately distorting it. When I refer to 'parasites', I am speaking of those who are capable of being productive contributors to their community, but that willfully refuse to do so, preferring instead to leech off of the productivity of others. And I am speaking in the strictly Darwinian survivalist sense, not in the sense of 'useful and productive to a capitalist system'. People who are largely denied the opportunity to be contributors through external circumstance, such as the Haitians you hold up as an example, do not fall into that category.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 04 Mar 2009, 14:34:29

I'm guessing very few people actually prefer to be parasites. If it were that easy and pleasant, more people would do it. It's just not that fun to live on disability, welfare, and food stamps.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby Jotapay » Wed 04 Mar 2009, 14:36:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')'m guessing very few people actually prefer to be parasites.


You forgot about everyone who got a banking and finance degree. I know plenty of people who don't like to work.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 04 Mar 2009, 14:41:13

Many ppl have jobs that are just BS make work, does that qualify as 'parasite'?
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby TWilliam » Wed 04 Mar 2009, 14:43:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')'m guessing very few people actually prefer to be parasites. If it were that easy and pleasant, more people would do it. It's just not that fun to live on disability, welfare, and food stamps.

I would have to disagree Ludi. I've known more than a few that have been quite content to game the system their entire adult lives, and laugh about it...
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 04 Mar 2009, 14:43:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '
')You forgot about everyone who got a banking and finance degree. I know plenty of people who don't like to work.



I left them out because they are parasites of the capitalist system.

But yeah, they probably don't look like they are working, to many of us. They think they are working hard, I'm sure!

Hey, I don't especially like to work, either. So I reduce my need to earn. But I sure as hell don't try to go on disability.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby Bas » Wed 04 Mar 2009, 14:45:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', '
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Then I can show you some workers, you will say they are "useful and productive" ? Sure they are. What they produce is in the garbage in 6 months, and for our system that is a good thing. If that does not happen then the wheels stop, and people become "worthless" as measured by the system.

Either you misunderstand the argument, or you're deliberately distorting it. When I refer to 'parasites', I am speaking of those who are capable of being productive contributors to their community, but that willfully refuse to do so, preferring instead to leech off of the productivity of others. And I am speaking in the strictly Darwinian survivalist sense, not in the sense of 'useful and productive to a capitalist system'. People who are largely denied the opportunity to be contributors through external circumstance, such as the Haitians you hold up as an example, do not fall into that category.


according to that definition, are there really that many parasites in America? aren't receivers of unemployment benefits obliged by law to look for a job and are checked upon that? IMHO opinion the only real parasites in the system are those who commit fraud with entitlements still it can be a daytime job surviving on welfare. Also those people not needed by the system, who are unable to find a job should be just left to die or forced to steal their daily bread? I don't think so. Not while we live in a system where bankers run off with millions for running the economy into the ground.

btw, Holmes you're a misanthrope.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 04 Mar 2009, 14:49:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '
')I would have to disagree Ludi. I've known more than a few that have been quite content to game the system their entire adult lives, and laugh about it...



What percentage of the population do you think they represent?

I've never met a single person like that, myself. That doesn't mean they don't exist, just means I've never known one.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby Jotapay » Wed 04 Mar 2009, 14:55:47

There are a lot of slackers in Austin.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 04 Mar 2009, 15:00:37

There used to be a lot of homeless people in Austin ("Drag Worms"), but I don't put them in the category of parasites.

I guess I'm not sure what we would do with slackers/parasites as a society. Let them become homeless? Not sure if that would solve anything. Might save us 2-5% on our tax burden.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby Jotapay » Wed 04 Mar 2009, 15:08:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I') guess I'm not sure what we would do with slackers/parasites as a society.


If they are stealing from you, like a banker or a thief, defend yourself. If not, then do nothing and let them reap their own harvest. No one ever said one has to work, but no one ever said I had to help them either if they are lazy.
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